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dianah

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Hi Hugh-
yer one person who knows pretty much what I am capable of when it comes to this tractor of mine.
I now have a pretty substantial leak at the left rear rim- a drip every 3 seconds or so. I'm supposing it's one of two things- either I overfilled the hydro fluid (likely), or the oil seal is shot and needs replaced.
The pan under the belly of the tractor is leaking too warranting a gasket change as well.
So....if the seal is shot- do you think I can change it myself, or should I call Case and have them fix it for me? The pan gasket doesn't scare me so much.
I know I will be keeping her for one more summer at the very least and have had 4 offers of people to buy her and am also wondering if I should spend the money to hire this done or just keep it filled and let someone else mess with it after they buy it.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this- and I won't take anything as an insult if you think it's more than I can handle myself.

Thanks Hugh,

diana
 
Diana: This is just a thought, but the transmission may be over full. with tractor on lever ground remove the fill to level plug. Be prepared to catch oil. All IH tractors of that era will leak if transmission is over full. I expect you've had close to the same amount of rain we had this summer. I know your tractor is parked outside most of the time. Those tractors are prone to water running down the gear shift lever and into the transmission during heavy rains.

Do this first, then worry about seals if not over full.
 
Hi guys-
No water- for sure. She had the privilege of being in the barn all winter, her exhaust is covered while outside.
I'm inclined to believe I have overfilled it causing the major drippies- but I do know there is some leaking going on causing a weakened hydro system till I fill it again.
Tomorrow, I'll set a clean bucket under it and remove the square bolt. I turned it out a hair today and fluid was wanting to come out through the threads- overfull- yup!

Hugh, I have that number right here next to me for Ontario Tractor parts and do you think I took the time to call them today? Nooooo...I swear- first thing in the morning I am calling to see about that linkage!!!!

diana
 
The tranny and Hydraulic (I think) are not connected. Thus the trans could be drained down to just below the SQ plug with no grief at all. The check for water is to just thread out the drain plug till it hangs on the last threads (as you did with the check plug. If water comes out, (and it is possible on a stored tractor with condensation) it can raise the level in the trans. If the fluid is milky, it is another water issue, but will require several days of sitting to separate out the emulsified oil. JimN
 
Diana: Make note of how I said water gets in the transmission. That gear shift lever collects a lot of water, even in one 2" rainfall. I venture to guess the shift lever collects ten times as much water as the exhaust pipe. Exhaust pipes don't collect much water unless it is deflected. I once left my Farmalls 560 diesel and 300 in the middle of a 100 acre field, during a 9" rainfall, in 24 hours. Tractors hardly blew black soot when I started them, however the transmissions were way over full.

On my 130, I have a double layer 6" square section of inner tube, pierced in center, with pierced hole over shift lever. I have a glue of some sort water proofing it around the lever. The inner tube hangs down over shift lever tower, running off any water. It works, that tractor has been out all summer with no build up in transmission. If I leave SA and 130 out, I usually put a bucket over the shift lever, as well as can on mufler. If I forget, even one 2" ranifall and I have oil coming out around the seals.
 
Ohhhh! OK guys...I get it now......
Didn't even consider the shifter knob- I did look down into the gears/oil before I filled it (I have no idea why) and there wasn't any foaming- although water could have been sitting on top of the oil and not been visible.

I'll check in to it more tomorrow.

Thanks guys!

diana
 
Diana: Tremendous amounts of water can enter the transmission, via the gear shift lever. Some tractors were much worse than others. Often if they are left in reverse, 2nd or 4th in the 5 speed and 1st and 3rd in the 4 speed water can run along hood, down the dash to shift lever. Wind can have a major effect. Optional hydraulic plumbing and valves can deflect a lot of water.

This is why gear shift lever is much worse than exhaust. In an open field, exhaust has no deflections other than updraft created by engine hood. That updraft takes much of the rain right over the tractor. Gear shift lever on the other hand, is prone to many deflections above it. Even the fenders on a Utility can deflect a lot of water, via the wind.
 
had to giggle about that cause I had a "duh" moment later last night when I thought about that!!!!
 
And of course you know the boot on the shifter leaves little to be desired. As soon as the dew is off of her, I'll be out there this morning.
Be glad to get her back in the barn but need to get a hay delivery in there first.
This time she is going in there mower and all so I don't have to put that thing back on again!!!
I wish we would get some serious rain so I can mow again before the snow since I can actually relax and enjoy the ride this time with the PTO working properly.
School starts Monday and I am not looking forward to it! I would much rather be playing.

diana
 
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