(quoted from post at 03:33:01 12/06/08) BDC: The grill with horizontal bars was used from 1958 until mid 1963. It was the styling of the era and that same styling was used on 240, 340, 460 and 560.
The grill changed to the small holes in 1963 being the same styling as 404, 504, 606, 706 and 806. Why IH didn't change the model number on the 140 is a qood question. I guess a good answer would be 140 did not change mechanically, however there were significant changes in the larger mo
dels.
(quoted from post at 11:20:56 12/06/08)
THANK YOU MINE HAS A PLANE SMAILL HOLED PIECE OF METAL THAT STICKS OUT ABOUT 3/4 IN AND IN 3/4 OF A IN OUT AND IN. MY SERIAL NUMBER IS 37 OR 37 50 J I'M MISSING THE IH BADGE. ALSO DO YOU KNOW THE HEAD TORQUE AND ROD CAP TORQUE THANK YOU SO MUCH .BDC
(quoted from post at 11:20:56 12/06/08)
THANK YOU MINE HAS A PLANE SMAILL HOLED PIECE OF METAL THAT STICKS OUT ABOUT 3/4 IN AND IN 3/4 OF A IN OUT AND IN. MY SERIAL NUMBER IS 37 OR 37 50 J I'M MISSING THE IH BADGE. ALSO DO YOU KNOW THE HEAD TORQUE AND ROD CAP TORQUE THANK YOU SO MUCH .BDC
(quoted from post at 16:40:32 12/06/08)
Here is a 1960 Farmall 140:
(quoted from post at 21:01:29 12/06/08) Here is a format that works. You also had a typo, ; where you needed :
Hit the "quote" button in the upper right of this post to see what it looks like in raw form. (Then use your back button to avoid doing an unneeded post.)
(quoted from post at 16:48:06 12/06/08) Durk: The serial number 23300 is questionable. We had this discussion at YT several years ago. I forget the particulars however it seems that did not happen at exactly 23300. I also remember a group of tractors with new type grill, then a later group with old grill. It seemed as though IH started using the new type grill, then discovered they had a stock of old grills.
It's in the archives somewhere, I can't remember the particulars, but I was satisfied there are 140s out there with new grill and serial numbers as low as 22000.
My 140 is serial number 22157, I've had the front sheet metal, rad and water pump off. During this procedure I was looking for evidence of the grill being changed. I am satisfied this tractor came from factory as it is. In that earlier discussion there was a guy with serial number lower than mine by less than 100. He to was satisfied he had the original grill.
(quoted from post at 19:28:36 12/07/08) Brett: The block part number is partially hidden behind oil filter, cast in place, about inch high digits, on SA, 100, 130 and 140 always 6 numbers followed by R1, R2 or R3.
On the rings, it's been awhile since I had one apart, I just don't try to remember. Always use my part numbers.
(quoted from post at 09:53:54 12/08/08) Brett: A 140 block part number should read 367825 R1 or 367825 R2. Just maybe some of them ended in R3 or even just R. There should always be a blank between the 6 digit number and R.
If we agree that your block part number is 367825 R whatever then there is no way tou have 3" pistons and sleeves. The only kit ever made for that block is 3-1/8" piston and sleeve.
I thought you ironed out that serial number about 6 posts ago. I must admit, I've never seen serial numbers on a 140 with blanks other than between number and the J. If your tractor has a 4 digit serial number, excluding the J, it almost has to be a 1958, 1959 or a 1960. At this point, that is as far as I'm prepared to go. Getting info from you has been much like pulling hen's teeth.
(quoted from post at 14:43:30 12/08/08) Brett: I agree some of the advice you got was not very well expressed. I'll go through the whole thing for you.
Serial Number 3750 is a 1959 model and that number should have come from a tag on left side of clutch housing. You can search this yourself, under Research & Info at the left of this page click on Serial Numbers let your computer do it's thing, then click on International and Farmall again let the computer go to next and click on I-140 and F-140. That will produce a page with beginning serial numbers for each year the 140 was in production.
Then we have the letter J, nothing to do with serial number. It indicates the tractor was equipped with a Rockford clutch from the factory.
Then we have the post 1963 grill, you are truly a blessed man. The 1958-1963 grills were junk, always loose with a vibration. That same style grill was on first 140 and all 240, 340, 460, 560 and 660. By the time most of them were 10 years old, haywire was the fastener of choice. Believe me I know, I listened to a 560 grill vibrate for 11,000 hours. Should have sued IH for mental cruelty. Keep the grill you have.
Your block part number is 367825, all the R, R1, R2 or R3 do is indicate the casting run. I don't think there was ever R alone. Over the years I've looked at thousands of IH part numbers between 1953 and 1970, if it ended in R a number always followed. Check the block closely, someone may have done a grinding job. If you find no number following the R, don't worry about it, nothing will change.
On the item of ring count per piston. Over the years manufacturers probably made half dozen different piston-sleeve kits for that block. IH alone probably made 3. There is a chance some of them were 3 ring pistons and some were 4 ring pistons. Of that half dozen kits, probably only 2-3 of them exist today. This is all about volume and these tractors haven't been built for close to 30 years, and they are being used less every year.
Now, Will you kindly settle in and rebuild this tractor, we can't wait to see the finished product.
(quoted from post at 17:31:04 12/06/08) One more try at 1960 140:
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OKAY--someone please tell me what I am doing wrong with this code. Thanks
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