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Hugh MacKay

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I went to look at a 434 diesel. Seemed like everything was working well. He had it going before I arrived, thus I never did see it do a cold start.

My question is this, how difficult would it be to install a circulating block heater on one of these. I forgot to look for ports on block or head. I had these on 3 different 6 cylinder diesels years ago, ( 2-282 and a Deere) All three of those engines had a block drain about halfway along block, plus a port in the head directly above the block drain. These were quite simple to install and very effective. Just curious, and don't want to ask for another look.

I might add, block heater is not a starting tool in my opinion. I use it anywhere below 40F for engine longeviety.
 
I'm not familiar with that model. However, the Parts Catalog shows an (optional) water drain tap on the left side of the block, towards the back. I would expect with no tap there would be a pipe plug in the same place.

Couldn't find a plug listed with the cylinder head. It does show a small diameter thermostat bypass hose on the water pump. That might make an adequate second tap for a heater.
 
Hugh,
When we had B414 and 434 we only used the $10.00 Canadian Tire lower rad hose inline heater. When Dad bought the 384 he had Dealer install recirculating heater and I never looked where the top end was connected. Lower was connected to the drain in the side of the block. The lower rad hose inline heaters worked well, even at -30F, plugged in for 45 minutes and engine was good to start. You live in the banna belt now so no -30F an inline heater would be good. As you are well aware for those British Diesel good battery, cables and glow plugs are a must.

Hope this helps
Jim
 
Jim: I'm typing and listening to Rex Murphy, lord knows what I might type. Believe me, no point in government throwing good money at bad management.

Really this 434 is a kitten alongside some of the diesels I've played with in my lifetime. I know all about the big cables and I have used glow plugs. I've never used a block heater with the number one function being that cold weather start. Number one in my mind was preheating the engine, thus reducing wear. Having that summertime like start was only a side benefit. I've used frost plug type heaters, however I've always liked the circulating heater much better.

I knew you'd give me that dig about the banna belt. I always thought it cold in the Maritimes, then my children spent a couple of winters at university in Ottawa and Montreal. We heard some cold weather stories those winters. In NS I witnessed -40 twice in 60 years, -25F was quite common. But your right SW ON is truly the banna belt of Canada, in 6 years, I've yet to see minus side of F. Maybe close, but not often.
 
Jimmy: The 130 is going to be parted out come spring. Water pump was rebuilt recently and it will fit my thermosyphon SA. 130 has a good Zenith carb, SA has a troublesome Carter carb. Clutch assembly is new on 130, I sence my 140 clutch may need replacing sometime soon. 130 has new front tires, 140 front tires are worn out. The fan assembly and complete hydraulics, I'll add to my personal parts dept.

I may do the same with most of the rest of it, however it will be open to offers on those items. I need a bit more hp and I need live PTO. I think this British diesel should fit. With a bit of fabrication my snow blade will fit 434. Then I can run 2.5' x 8' tarps back each side from grill to fenders, and quit exposing my complate carcass to winter winds on top of 130. Don't get me wrong 130 was a great snow plow tractor, problem is, flesh no longer tolerates cold weather very well, not even in Canada's banna belt.
 
Jim: Thanks for the info. I see JimB was able to do close to what your suggesting on their 384. If it works on 384, 434 shouldn't be much different.
 
Hugh, was a banna belt here in Moncton on Friday about 15C but has since dropped to just below freezing but no snow. Back home to the snow and cold of Ottawa tomorrow but could never understand with all the hot air that is released on the Hill why Ottawa was always so cold.

JimB
 
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