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Anonymous-0 · Dec 23, 2008

CORP. OF ENG. -US ARMY purchase order number- 88-a-17952-88-date6-30-1950 serial no.293719 reg. number-864040 --pneumatic tired industrial tractor how many made and made when? yellow color under red; battery under seat-oil filter sets under back of gas tank where battery is on super-A has a mower deck under with about10 to12 foot belt------ help needed----thank you ken

Jim Becker · Dec 23, 2008

Didn't take them long to get building on that PO. Built August 1950.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 23, 2008

any way to find out how many were built KEN

ScottyHOMeY · Dec 23, 2008

Is this the same issue as how the serial numbers were stamped on the aluminum serial number tags under the seats of International As?

Guy Fay mentions in his data book, under the notes on the InternationalA, that IH records list them with a prefix of IAA or 1AA, but on tractors in the field they are often stamped 1AA.

That was for the pre-Supers. On the Supers, the prefix was FAA-1 for the Farmalls and IAA-1 for the Internationals.

Who knows if GSA or the Pentagon incorporated the manufacturer's numbers in identifying their equipment. It would almost make too much sense.

CNKS · Dec 23, 2008

The FAA-1 or IAA-1 indicates a Super A-1 with C123 engine, taller radiator, etc. International A's and Super A's were both IAA. Farmall A's and Super A's were both FAA.

ScottyHOMeY · Dec 23, 2008

Right you are.

And apologies to Ken.

As good and useful and valuable as that book is, I always get snarled up in the As and Bs and Cs. The As and Bs are all grouped together for several good reasons. But the Cs show up after the Hs and Ms, as if they were in chronological order of production. The variations/progress of the As don't fit in that same way (The SA-1s ahead of the Hs, for example), and I'm sure Guy had to make a difficult editorial decision to lay them out that way.

Still, I've done enough library research in my time to be more than a tad embarrassed. I've looked through what's available of the IH records online and, if Guy could wade through volumes of that stuff to assemble the info, I ought to be able to get through his distillation of it all.

Mea culpa.

CNKS · Dec 23, 2008

Guy is the only one that can answer that question, but it appears that he put them more or less in order of production, that is the Cub and C were introduced after the first letter series tractors. Or the printer could have simply messed up. I always have trouble finding the C, even though I know about where it is. We have to remember that Guy waded through that stuff before it was online, when it was likely stored in boxes -- and someone is still going through the remaining boxes.

ScottyHOMeY · Dec 23, 2008

Exactly. And for the most part he did do it chronologically, within a basic model in the original line (ABHM) so that the As SAs and SA-1s are all grouped together, just as B and BN right behind them and the Hs and Ms and their Supers and all the V and TA and D variations, leaving him to decide what to do with the Cubs and Cs. It had to be a decision at some point, but if I were Guy, I'd probably have done it the same way. The book is far more useful for the reader/user in that way than trying to go strictly chronologically, in general and especially for the number of folks trying to sort out As and Cs from their Super models , etc. (Never believe a decal!)

Nope, I just lost track of where I was and that's my fault not Guy's.

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