Belts?

My '48 S/A needs new fan & gen. belts but my nearest IH dealer is about 100 miles away.
Would NAPA belts of the proper length be acceptable?

Vern

Would you believe that the NAPA belts are probably made by the same company as makes the ones for IH/Case. So yes they will work just fine and probably cost you less $$ to boot
Hobby farm

Does anyone have the part no. for both belts so I can use them to cross ref.
It is a 1948 Super A. Don't know displacement as I think engine has been replaced. No number on block under #1 spark plug.
Vern

caseih.com seach for parts. (it takes a few seconds to get to the page to put in Farmall then select Super A. but there it is. JimN

Any parts store will have them. Does yours have a water pump. The gen belt is 17/32 wide and 25 long.

I go to NAPA for certain tractor stuff anymore; they'll be fine.

Take your old belts with you to NAPA. They can either measure what you have or cross reference the numbers.

Our local independent parts store is big on tractor crossover parts. Give yours a try.

Vern: The advice you have is good with one exception, if you happen to live in Canada, and ask for these belts at NAPA. They will look at you as though you have two heads. CaseIH and farm stores have the auto parts boys shut out of the tractor parts business, here in Canada.

There is another thread down the page, EZ (in Canada) was asking about bearings for his 130. Bob Kerr gave him a web site in the US, probably good advice if you live in the US, however most of these suppliers will not ship small orders into Canada. YT for example will not ship into Canada. Brokerage fees at the border will add $100. to that small order, about the same cost for a full truck load.

Then you couple the above with the fact that we can buy most tractor parts right here at home for less money with our $0.80. This is a huge difference, take for example that $20. USD part in the US. We probably buy that same part for $19.CAD or $15.20 USD.

I raise this as we constantly see Americans advising Canadians to shop US here at YT for their antique tractor parts. Sorry, but it just don't work for us.

Hehehe....I had to laugh....we were told NAFTA was going to change all that robbery at the border bullschitt. I have sneaking suspicion it costs a lot less to get stuff INto the USA than it does into Canada.

Which, I think is positive thinking on the part of the Canuck government. Most every government has tariffs in place to protect their domestic markets and I doubt the USA has very many at all and if so, they are quite low. There sure isn"t any problem for us to buy stuff from Canada and get it shipped in.

Mark: This has nothing to do with tarrifs or duties, there is no tarrif or duty on farm equipment either direction across the Canada-US border. I have taken farm equipment parts both ways across that border. You show them your invoice, they may look at the product, but most times not, and tell you to be on your way and have a nice day.

This is all about brokers trying to convince us it's difficult to cross that border with ag parts. Very likely it is difficult when carriers have mixed shipments, some of which is subject to duty or tarrif. My question is, why charge the ag order a brokerage fee.

Shipping between US and Canada can be made more or less difficult, depending on how you do it. Here is a page with some suggestions on how to make it less difficult.
http://www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/How To Ship Cross-Border Effectively.htm

Hugh,

There is always somebody in the middle hoping to make a quick buck.

However, I do think tariffs are good thing in many ways.

All my life, I have considered Canada to be/and like "us" in the USA. Common heritage, mostly the same language, imaginary line called a border, similar money denominations (and size) and so forth. I would think a tariff by either the USA or Canada would be an affront to good neighbors. HOWEVER, it would do all of us in the far northern hemisphere (above the Rio Grande) to shut up our borders, block importation of finished goods and let the rest of the world suck it up.

But, there are so many that have bought into the bullschitt promoted by the Socialist Left and believe the Global Economy farce. There is but one economy to be concerned about and that is, our own. If we consume it, we should make it. End of rant!

Hugh, I have a daughter that lives in Seattle WA area, if she sends us a parcel via US Post with the appropriate forms completed then there are no brokerage fees. If she sends the parcel via Courier and with appropriate forms completed, the Courier company will charge us a brokerage fee + tax on that service, usually $35.00 + taxes equal almost $40.00. Same thing if we send her a parcel via Canada Post there is a special handling fee of about $40.00 along with appropriate forms to complete. It is cheaper to drive 80 miles to Massena NY and mail it there via US Post.

So it is not the Gov't that is imposing these fees but the Courier companies have found a cash cow in small parcels from US.

JimB

believe it or not napa has a parts pro se section you can look up a lot of tractor parts by yr and make i punched i t up and found your belts

Mark: I can't argue that one. Even if our people demanded quality, a lot of that offshore supply would dry up. Problem is how many folks know quality when they see it anymore. Consumers today think it it can be bought with a credit card, it must be quality.

Jim: I know all about what your saying. I had the free IH gas caps land at my door via Courier. He wanted a Brokerage fee. I told him to shove them where the sun don't shine. Four days later he left them on my back step when no one was home.

US and Canadain postal service are good but they have weight limits, then it gets farmed out to a Courier. I've also heard about the advice Jim Becker speaks of in his post. There are surprises with that as well.

Like you say, drive across the border then ship. I have never had any surprises, showing up at the border, either direction, with the article in my pickup and invoice at hand.

Well, yes once but there was no invoice involved. A chap in Detroit gave me about 100 pallets. About 75 were decent pallets, the rest burn pile. When I got to Canadian customs at Sarnia, they wanted me to pay GST on the pallets, however I could not think of a value. He advised there had to be a value, or I wouldn't have them on the truck. This was all happening right in the line up booth. We argued for a minute or so, then I proceeded to get out of the truck. He asked What I was doing. I replied, "You want money, I don't intend on giving you any money, therefor I'm going to the back of the truck, open the door and roll the pallets out, then you can find someone else to give you money for them." He said, "You may as well get in the truck and go home to Watford."

Jim: Read my responce to the other Jim. Living this close to the border, we've heard it all. There is only one way to eliminate surprises, "Show up a border with product and an invoice", it never fails. Wording of the invoice is very important.

Shippers work fine as long as the shipper representive or the Customs agent are good old farm boys that recognize the product as ag equipment. You get yourself a couple of New York traders, and you could find yourself paying $25. per bolt for a set of SA wheel bolts.

JimB2 is exactly right, I used to send a lot of items to Canada.
Sending by USPS I never did anything different than if I was sending it somewhere here. And actually sending UPS or Fed Ex never cost me anymore than normal. The recipient in Canada never had further charges when I sent by USPS, but if I sent by UPS or Fed EX they had to pay a ransom hostage fee to some canadian govt backed pirates to release their item to them.

(quoted from post at 13:44:21 01/03/09)US and Canadain postal service are good but they have weight limits, then it gets farmed out to a Courier. I've also heard about the advice Jim Becker speaks of in his post. There are surprises with that as well.

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here are a lot of ins and outs to importing material. The page I pointed at just covers a few simple traps that can be avoided. They are pretty similar to what JimB2 commented on.

(quoted from post at 13:44:21 01/03/09)Well, yes once but there was no invoice involved. A chap in Detroit gave me about 100 pallets . . . "You want money, I don't intend on giving you any money, therefor I'm going to the back of the truck, open the door and roll the pallets out . . .

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his reminds me of a story. Many years ago, my father built a cabin way north of Toronto. At the time, you were allowed to bring in one load of household goods without duty, I think it was a "homesteading" exemption. I have forgotten the details. Anyway, we had tall sides on a pickup with all the stuff packed in and a fishing boat over the top. As it happened, you could see nearly everything on the truck by looking over the tail gate or past the front of the tall sides. In advance, dad had completed whatever form was required to bring the load in. Since it was all old stuff from a house, there was no paperwork on individual items.

We got to Port Erie and had the misfortune of drawing a customs agent that was a known &^&*$%. He took one glance at the truck and started into this big tirade about how he couldn't see what was on the truck. After about so long, dad looked at me and said "OK Jim, I'll hand the stuff out to you." I started looking around, obviously sizing up the adjacent parking spaces for where I was going to place everything. As soon as the agent realized we were about to unload the whole truck, he stopped us, gave us a lecture on not having anything that didn't qualify for the exemption, and sent us on.

Vern,

The motor number is not under the No. 1 plug but under the throttle rod behind the distributor on a flat space at the north end of the motor right up against the governor. It will be punched in and not cast in. Larry

Mark,

I like your passion, however socialism is defined as government ownership or control of the means of production. It has nothing to do with protective tariffs. Those of us in agricultural production were the first to buy into being under socialism (in the 1920's) when we gave up our liberty and allowed the USDA to control acreage and provide a support price. Now ASCS agents have free run of our land and I receive threats of criminal action if I don't return those annoying production projection forms. Not everything has been controlled. Watermelon production has never had a price support that I know of, nor greens or other truck crops. On some years those items are allowed to rot in the field because the cost to harvest is more than the price being paid. All our crops would be that way without Uncle Sugar. Are we willing to live that way? Cotton producers in my part of the country get more government payments than they expect to make from the sale of product. If we were to stop making the cotton payments, cotton production would move overseas.

Protective tariffs will benefit those who produce the item protected but will cost the consumers. That is not a question of socialism vs. non-socialism but a question of economics. What has put the U.S. at a competitive disadvantage with the rest of the world is not open borders, but tax policy (we pay the highest corporate marginal rate in the world) and environmental hysteria adding unreasonable cost the price of production and these two items are straight out of the socialist handbook. Larry McEver

JimN;

Thanks, that;s what I needed.

Vern

www.link_disallowed

that web site has belts for a desent price, and just about every other part you need

rrogers: I see you recommending Walt's Tractor quite often. Probably very fine advice if you live within 500 miles of Walt. Now if Walt is like most other Americans, he will no ship outside continental USA.

Probably half the folks on YT are more than 500 miles from Walt. For them shipping could double the price. It's always best to first find out where the guy lives. Just a bit of advice.