fuel tank and lines

D Slater

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Picture of early Dis. or kero. H bowl and tanks if it works.
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Craziness. I still think the tractor has red rims :) I can't make out what is on the bottom of the big tank from the pic. Do they double filter the gas or do they not filter the dist at all???
 
Both fuel flows went through bowl. No shut off for big tank at bowl. It was shut off at bottom of big tank with a shut off valve. Bowl valve shut off small gas tank from the flow.
 
that is the distaled that is not the kerosene model the kerosene model had the bowel under the big tank is every thing that i have found they made the dis befor the kero
 
So your guess is that the bowl had an inlet from the big tank going to an outlet crossing across the tractor to the carb?
I can barley read "Fuel Shut off valve" and "gasoline shut off valve" on the picture. I believe you that the picture has a bowl on the gas tank. That is very clear. I have seen a couple '39 H's and none of them went from the big tank to the little tank to the carb. You never know what could have happened to "an original" tractor in 70 years.

Edit - to get quote off picture
 
Well I have H and M parts and operator manuals dated jan. 1940 and they all show kerosene and distillate heads and parts and distillate and kerosene used the same fuel set ups. Think they dropped the kerosene in august 1940 in favor of distillate, but still offered a kerosene attachment # 58452D starting h serial # 41405 up for buyers that wanted it. If you notice in later parts books fuel shut off valve 55474 D or DX with nut thats listed for serial # 15744 up says gasoline or fuel tank needle valve. Thats because they would work in both tanks if after serial # 15743. and was used in the big tank for distillate and kerosene serial # 15744 to 50865. It was used in the small tank 50866 up. Before the 15744 serial break a different fuel shut off was used in the big tank, Thats because the outlet hole is a different size. Later fuel bowls won't screw into the early original big fuel tank unless adapter fitting were used before serial # 15744. Most if not all early fuel set ups have probably been changed by now. IH offered changeover parts because of vaper lock and fire hazard when some implements were used.
You fellows can think what you want but I say early ones were made with the fuel bowl in the small tank. I can even remember a couple still like that when I was a pup.
 
That's crazy. Mine must be changed over bc it is in that serial break. I wonder what years/serial numbers the other two guys were. It is stange the parts manual makes no mention of a different fuel line esp when there are already serial breaks on the bowl/valves etc.

Why in the world do you have two threads going about this subject?

I knew you couldn't be lying bc you said you had a picture. You can believe an old picture :) It used to be you could believe all the pictures you saw...not with computers.
 
Reason for two posts was I wasn't sure I could get the picture (not the best) on and didn't want to type a bunch and lose it. I'm pretty dumb on a computor and other things.
Parts manuals are confusing about the parts in guestion. Some printings have the wrong # or serial break # in them unless corrected on some of the parts. May not be easy to figure out but they do show different fuel lines for the different set ups.
 
So they used this one on the early tractors?
1 52643DX PIPE/Retired FUEL PIPE - fuel tank to strainer with 2 nuts, 29899D (Distillate or kerosene) (S/N 501 to 15743)

Therefore <15743 would have the stainer on the gas tank? The part is retired, but the other two dist/kero fuel lines are still around. I would guess this has to do with the field imp pkg taking the place of that setup.
I would guess it would be better to have it on the big tank when farmers started abandoning dist/kero and only running gas.

Was the strainer/bowl the same when it was on the big tank or the little tank?

Typo
 
For distillate and kerosene in the parts books, most times fuel tank means the big tank and gas is small tank. IN the following I will just put BT for big tank and ST for small tank, fl for fuel line.
SN 501 to 15743 used fuel shut off needle valve 49564 in bt. also fl from shut off to strainer under st was 52643.
SN 15744 up used shut off valve # 55474. from 15744 to 50865 it was used in the bt with fl to strainer at st being # 55475. Shut off valve # 55474 was used in ST serial # 50866 up.
SN 501 to 50865 used fl # 52644 from strainer under st to carburetor.
SN 50866 up with strainer under bt used fl # 58366 strainer to carburetor. Used fl # 58367 from shut off valve under ST to strainer.
SN 501 to 50865 used fuel strainer complete # 49653.
SN 50866 up used fuel strainer 58361.
Above is for D&K farmall H tractors. I left the suffix letters off the part numbers because they changed over the years. Also some part numbers changed. With all the numbers I could have made a mistake putting them on.
 

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