Super A snow plow?

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

Hi All,
First I'd like to thank everyone again that helped me with my engine replacement/rebuild. It would have been a lot longer and harder project had you guys not been here to answer my questions.
Now that my SA is running, I have a winch for firewood logging and a cutter bar mower for mowing my fields.
Now I want a plow of some kind for snow plowing. The problem is, I don't have a clue as to what I'm looking for. I think IH made front mount, belly mount and rear mount plows. Is that right? What I really want is a front mount plow. Did they make a front mount for snow plowing or were there only small front end loaders made? Does anyone have a model or name for the front mount plow? I sure would like to see some pictures of one installed (if they even made them) or an IH parts drawing.
Thanks in advance,
Dave

Red Dave · Nov 29, 2011

If IH made it, I expect that it has pieces that extend back to the drawbar or final drives that transmit the pushing force back to a place that is designed to take it.

I would strongly suggest that you do not push against the front end very hard, like when pushing snow. These tractors do not have a frame, they use the engine block as a structural member to support the front end. It can be broken. They have been broken. It can ruin your block or the steering box.

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

I think you are right about the mount up Red Dave. I guess I wasn't clear enough in my first post. What I should have said is, what I really want is a plow with the blade in front of the front wheels with the proper mount-up hardware. I have no intention of putting a "truck like" plow on it. I'm interested in finding out what was originally available to snow plow with. I'm especially interested in seeing how the plow (if they even made them) raises and lowers using the SA hydraulics. Thanks for the heads up though.
Dave

Anonymous-0 · Nov 29, 2011

Had one on a super A worked ok . It was I.H.accessory.If you go into the photo archives you will find pictures .From time to time you will find one for sale on this site.Usually priced around 300 to 350

MapleSprings · Nov 29, 2011

Check the archives for various posts and photos by our late lamented friend Hugh MacKay.

He had a number of firm convictions based on his experiences plowing Canadian snow with his offsets, from desirable width of blade (6', not IH 5') to strong mounting of assemblies.

I am beginning to assemble the necessary parts to mount a snowplow on my 140, so I have something smaller and more nimble than the 8 1/2' one on my Oliver 1650.

Mark

Stan MI · Nov 29, 2011

I had a plow similar to what you are looking for on my SA for many years. (Sorry no photos)

It used a long A frame that mounted on the draw bar as the push support. Lift was a pully that was mounted by a piece of channel steel connected to where the cultivators mount and lifted with the standard hydraulics. I never trusted stacking snow with it because I though lifting the blade while pushing snow would be too much for the lift arm. It did plow snow very well.

Red Dave · Nov 29, 2011

I have seen such snow plows. They have arms that go under the front axle and go back to where the drawbar mounts on the final drives to provide the push.

Unfortunatly, I do not know what model number they were, or who made them.

I'd bet that Gene Bender could tell you that information.

erik dekeyser · Nov 29, 2011

IH made one that works great. I had one but i sold it .My friend Harv has 2 of them for sale. They are spring loaded so if you hit something hard it trips the blade. I have a picture of mine i will see if i can find it.

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

Thanks Tim. I found the pictures. That helped.
Dave

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

The post you sent me to, by Hugh MacKay, were very usefull and priceless. He sounds like he was quite a guy.
Good luck with your 140 project!
Thanks,
Dave

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

Thanks Erik I'd love to see the picture you have!
Where do you and your buddy Harv live? I'm in Vermont.
Dave

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

Thanks Stan. It sounds a little different than the one I saw in the pictures in the archives on this site. I wonder if there was more than one model?? So far in researching this today, I've seen referenced a model A60 and A54. I wish I knew more!??
Dave

Jim Becker · Nov 29, 2011

The blade is the A-60. It has a subframe that is braced to the side of the bell housing. It only attaches to the final drive housings when it is mid-mounted for grading.

If you go to the CaseIH site and search for parts you can find the parts diagrams. Just search for "grader blade" then look down the list for the number 60. The first 3 diagrams show all the important parts. (The next 2 are parts for using it on an A and the sixth is just the blade extension.)

Tom Coughlin · Nov 29, 2011

The A frame plow described previously (with rear mount near the drawbar) sounds like the plow we had on the 48 Cub I grew up with. This plow had a frame mounted just behind the steering box that acted as an up and down guide for the plow. A cable ran through a pulley mounted to the front frame that went to the Touch Control rocker. That plow was made by Blackhawk. This was a great plow but the Cub was a little light so you had to plan every move so as not to get stuck in the snow.

Tom Coughlin
Stow, MA

TheDurk · Nov 29, 2011

My 1966 140 came from the dealer with a Meyer ST-72 snowplow. The mount hung from the bolster 'ears' and was braced from behind with angle irons bolted to the final drive. A 5/8 steel cable hooked to the rockshaft arm goes through two pulleys on the mount to a hook on the A-frame. It's been working great for 45 years.

Want pics?

Anonymous-0 · Nov 29, 2011

I have a snow/grader plow on my SA now, waiting for first snow here in Central Mo. It is an A-60 I belive and works well pushing gravel in the drive. Will be the first winter for it. Email me and I will try to get some pics this weekend and send them to you

David Lampman · Nov 29, 2011

Yes I would love to see some pics!!!

MapleSprings · Nov 29, 2011

I forgot to urge you to figure out how wide a blade you will need to cover the full width of your wheel track ONCE THE BLADE IS SET AT AN ANGLE. My wheels are 56" on center for use with vegetable beds in the summer, and I sure don't want to have to reset them twice a year for snow plowing. Unless your wheels are set quite narrow, I doubt if the IH 60" blade will cover the whole tracks. I'm going to be using a 72" or 78" or even 84" blade for my circumstances, YMMV, of course.
Mark

erik dekeyser · Nov 30, 2011

I live in Ontario that might be a little to far away for you. If you send me an email i will send you the pictures of the blade. I would do it on here but cant seem to remember how to do it.

TheDurk · Nov 30, 2011

(quoted from post at 21:00:01 11/29/11) Yes I would love to see some pics!!!

I'll get you some close-ups tomorrow.

David Lampman · Dec 1, 2011

Thanks!!

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