656 tranny and axles, vs 560

Anonymous-0 · Aug 16, 2012

Are they similiar or is the 560 heavier built? I know the bell housing is larger on 560, do any parts interchange? Did the 656 all come with console shift?

Anonymous-0 · Aug 16, 2012

It is a good improvement in most areas, it is a mix of some 460 size parts but for the most parts are from 560, has tapered Timken bearings in rear axle, brake shafts & differential, some in transmission & live hydraulics/IPTO. The hydraulics were much improved, 3 point hitch, full hydrostatic power steering. The engines were still old Gas C263 or D282 but run at lower RPM at pto speed. It was a easier shift trans but was still only 5 forward & 1 reverse. The 666/686 had better diesels, D312 US IH engine, then D310 german IH.

Aces · Aug 16, 2012

656 big improvment over 560 they may look light, but it is what is on the inside that counts!!!!!

dhermesc · Aug 16, 2012

All 656s have the console shift. They also have the same size axle shafts. I know our 656 was a better shifting tractor at 20K hours than our 560 was at 8K hours.

mkirsch · Aug 16, 2012

That's very odd that you'd have more trouble with a 560 than a 656.

656 shifters are much more complicated, lots of linkages to wear out and get sloppy. A 560 shifter is just a bent rod that goes straight into the forks.

Betcha your TA was out of adjustment on the 560 and the TA clutch wasn't releasing.

dhermesc · Aug 17, 2012

The 560 shifting forks were worn out and I don't know how many times it got stuck in two gears. Never had those issue with the 656.

656 tranny and axles, vs 560

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