John deere bearing pricing

I Have my grandfathers 1937 john deere model A it in need of some work including my magnito needed a new bearing I called john deere dealer and price was $137 for a bearing measuring 35 mm od 15 mm Id and 9 mm wide yes $137 I bought the bearing from bearings direct it cost about $15 including shipping
Do you think the john deere bearing is that much better?
If it was not my grandfathers I would ship it and stick with my red tractors I guess as old international dealer told me once while showing me his collection od red tractors there was a green one in the bunch he said it was for when having a bad day he could kick that instead of the dog being he really liked that dog lol

They do have very high quality bearings. I doubt you will wear out your cheap one.

go to your local auto parts store and get a bearing of the same dimensions, or give them the JD Part number and they can probably cross-reference it. Save you some money.

My experience has been the dealers are always much higher for everything. They don't make bearings they buy then from SKF or some other manufacturer. So the 15 dollar one is the same quality as the 150 dollar one.

Gotta pay for that deer on the box somehow!

yes the original equipment brg. is better. it will have more balls or rollers in it than just the conventional brg. you will not know that till you open the brg up. you have to figure out how much you will use this unit and if the brg. will last for your requirement.

deere didnt make that magneto anyway its what probably a wico so any parts supplier that deals in wico parts could get it too , lots of engines used wico ignition parts & last i seen wico is still in business , i have 1 JD B that i restored it was the biggest rip off in parts ive ever seen , whats worse is Deere holds the patents on alot of the parts still , they wont make the part , but wont sell the patent so someone els came but they'll sell ya a new tractor so they can screw ya again in 20 years , ill never touch a JD again , Farmall all the way

> i have 1 JD B that i restored it was the biggest
> rip off in parts ive ever seen , whats worse is
> Deere holds the patents on alot of the parts
> still...

Patents expire after 20 years. Nobody holds any patents on anything that went into a B when it was built.

ok, so your telling me John Deere dealer directly lied to me when i needed a new steering wear washer & some other misc, parts for a B that where no longer made by deere & they still hold the rights to the part & no one els can make it , id think they would have found them parts and ripped me off to get them, would like to add my local deere dealer has great people ( even though i dont like JD tractors ) they even call the factory parts directly in front of me and they relayed a lie then, id like to think not , as popular as JD is id think any part would be easily obtained then especily for a B

Details?

Is the bearing actually in the mag, or in the governor (that drives the mag)?

What's the part number?

Just because the bearing was cheaper doesn't mean necessarily that it's less quality. It depends on the manufacturer.

Corporations have all kinds of funny ways of coming up with prices. Overhead, pensions, corporate bonuses, dealer markup... when you buy from a corporation you are feeding a lot of mouths. Deere probably paid the bearing manufacturer $5 bucks.

I posted this reply on the JD discussion board too.

Why TRACTORDANP's John Deere Dealer might be charging $137 for what appears to be a $15 bearing elsewhere I can't explain, but I worked for Deere & Co. for some 33 years, sometimes in the engine parts area, and never heard of the technique of "cheating" the IRS as you suggest. Don't you suppose that with all the capability the IRS demonstrates these days that they, the IRS, would check into the pricing history of parts before the tax loss was calculated?

For some reason this issue grabbed my interest and I searched the Deere parts site and found that the old original part numbers for the cone(JD7656R), balls & retainer(JD7657R) and cup(JD7655R) are no longer available. However, with the bearing specifications TRACTORDANP gives, using the parts specification search on the Deere parts web site I come up with an AL28037 as probably being the right bearing. ID and OD are the same as TRACTORDANP indicates but the bearing I found has a width of 8.936mm instead of 9 mm. Using the "where used" search capability of the Deere parts site, I find lots of recent Dubuque products, as well as some others, use the AL27038 bearing, but the Model "A" tractor isn't listed. That's probably because the information on the old "A"tractors is available in PDF format and is not in the parts site's searchable data base. Anyway, the Deere web site lists the price of the AL28037 bearing as $11.99. I don't know, but heard lately that local John Deere Dealers are now allowed to set their own prices on parts and don't necessarily have to go by the prices shown on the Deere web site. Could that possibly explain what's going on here?

John deere part number is x 5521 and is still a good number and dealer said only two days to get it
But I still went with the cheaper one to save some money

Interesting. I don't find X5521, even with the wild card search approach of using *5521) as being a good current JD parts number. Still it looks like 777parts.net might have it, but I didn't pursue it so far as setting up an account with them. So, the bearing you're looking for must be in the magneto (WICO?) itself, not the one in the governor housing on the magneto end of the governor shaft.

I worked for the local JD dealer in early to mid 70s. They had a book to cross bearings and at that time often we would be cheaper than the competition. On older equipment I work on I find that they tend to update to a later version requiring you to purchase several parts instead of just one. The old tractor parts seem to be extra expensive. I don"t think over all the IH parts, new ones, are that much cheaper though.

anyone can make that thrust washer. the only parts that need to be licensed by deere would be if that part would have a deere trademark stamped or cast on it. and deere charges the seller fifteen percent gross.pretty easy way to make money.

rustred, there no no 'heavy duty' magneto bearings. that bearing will be the same load carrying capacity. there is still a 'magneto bearing' page in the Timken bearing bible.

Almost anything that is a "purchased part" (not actually made by the tractor company) is marked up considerably by that company. By the time it gets to the end user, it will easily be marked up several times, probably at least quadrupled. This is not unique to JD or any other manufacturer. It's just the nature of the beast. I used to be able to buy Cessna parts at cost +10%. Had occasion to buy a power steering gear pump for a C2 Gleaner.... I bought it for $31. Local Gleaner dealer wanted $137. another time, a combination pump for a L2KS gleaner... Approx. $235 at cost +.... Gleaner was approx. $875. Lot of people handled that pump from our OEM price to the farmer. We had a backhoe operator running some field tests for us. We left a spare rotary cylinder with him to use if the test one broke down. About a year after the tests were done and he had his own original cylinder back in use, he called in one day and wondered if he could still use our spare since he was no longer running tests for us... said "I don't have $1000 to buy a new one right now". We sold M-F that cylinder for $250. He had done favors for us, so we gave him the spare.

i have been getting bearings from our local john deere dealer lately. they were quite a bit cheaper price wise than motion industries (berry bearing).

This doesn't QUITE add up...

1. According to the jdparts consumer site:


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2. X5521 is a WICO part # for a "group" (an "assembly" of a bearing and the flange/holder it"s mounted in). (Key #19.)

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>So, I DOUBT if "Mother DEERE" had anything to do with this, the dealer parts guy was ambitious enough to search out an obsolete part for you, either NOS, or from a mag parts dealer, then obtained it and charged you accordingly.

My experience with International, back in the day was...if IH part could be sourced from a competitor, IH priced it BELOW everyone else. But if the part was IH - ONLY, you paid through the nose for it.

Of course, when IH was making their own bolts, we could RETAIL ours for less than we could buy replacements from PAI out of Cleveland, or other hardware jobbers...that would've been in the early 1970's.