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Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info please

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awhtx

04-17-2005 05:42:35




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You mentioned in a post that you overhauled your RM injector pump for $50. Mine needs the governor ring and I can't see spending $500 on it. I have looked for a manual for this pump and I can't find anything. I would appreciate it (and I am sure there are others who would too) if you could post the procedure for overhauling this pump.
Thanks,
Alan
e-mail me at: awhtx at netzero dot com if you prefer

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Larry NCKS

04-17-2005 14:19:45




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 Roosa OH in reply to awhtx, 04-17-2005 05:42:35  
Hi guys,

If you've never done one of these, they can be a bit tricky, but I'll try to help. Above all else clean the area off as best as possible. Once you take the pump off the engine clean it again. When you take it apart keep it absolutely clean. I soaked mine in carb cleaner overnight, then rinsed in under flowinc water and blew it out with compressed air.

Remove all fuel and injector lines. If there's fuel in the tank, you'll need a suitable container to catch fuel as it drains from the return line. You can shut off supply line at the bottom of the tank.

Guys that do this all the time say it's not necessary, but I like to have the # 1 cylinder on the timing mark before removal. There is a small cover on the side of the injection pump approx an inch long and half inch wide. It is held on by two really short screws. Remove it. Behind it is a really finely scribed line on the head and on the governor. They can be very difficult to see, but line them up by turning the engine. The final alignment most likely will need to be done by turning the engine with a wrench.

When the marks are lined up, remove the two nuts and washers that fasten the pump to the engine. You will also need to remove the throttle linkage from the pump shaft. Pull the pump up and off the engine.

Fasten the pump in a suitable vise or holding fixture. Be careful not to damage the housing.

Remove the bolts that secure the top cover and remove the cover. Pay strict attention to the linkage and how it is assembled in the chamber under this cover. Remove the long bolt from the backside, the J and C clips from the throttle shaft and remove linkage parts and metering valve from the pump. The final piece of linkage will come out in a later step.

Remove the advance piston assemblies from the bottom of the housing. These are the large hex plugs on either side. Mark these per side, as they are not identical. Remove the plug from the bottom of this chamber.

Now the tough part: If your pump has (and most of them do} the splined stud, you'll either need the special bristol bit tool to remove it, or you can fashion one from a T-45 torx bit. Grind the splines down unitl the T-45 fits the splines of the stud. Don't over grind it. DON'T TRY THIS WITHOUT THIS STEP. THE STUD WILL SHATTER AND BE VERY DIFFICULT TO REMOVE IF PROPER TOOL IS NOT USED.

Remove the four screws that retain the charge pump to the back of the head. Notice the orietation of the eccentric pump ring. It is marked CC on one side and C on the other. You'll need to replace it in the same orientation at reassembly.

Remove the two capscrews and the hollow stud that retain the hydraulic head to the housing. Twist/ pull the head from the pump. You may need to get forceful in this step.

The governor assembly is attached to the front of the head by a snap ring. It may not come out as a unit if your governor retainer ring is gone. AGAIN IT IS CRITICAL TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS ASSEMBLY. It is timed to the head (there are fine marks on the head and governor plate) and the weights and trust washer must go back as they came out. You'll see three rivet looking pegs on this part of the governor and three on the front piece. The rubber retainer ring remnants must be removed and the new reatainer ring stretched around these posts. A small snap ring plier works best to install the new ring. Install the ring with the + marks out. The peg holes are slightly recessed on this side.

The drive shaft can be removed at any time after the pump is off the engine. This shaft is timed to the head as well. Do not get it in backwards. Pay special attetion to the cup seals. The face away from each other. Be careful not to roll the back one as you reinstall the pump.

Assembly is essentially the reverse of removal.

New seal kits are available from any Stanadyne Authorized Diesel shop for around thirty dollars. These include a new governor ring and more orings and parts than you'll find places for.

If you have questions: BrotherBear2188 at AOL dot COM Hope this helps

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Larry NCKS

04-23-2005 03:22:51




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  Roosa OH Addendum in reply to Larry NCKS, 04-17-2005 14:19:45  
Several further things I should add:

Take care not to flip the roller cam over. It is directional.

Do not change the settings of the screws in the leaf springs on the rotor. This will change the fuel delivery rate.

The rotor can be removed from the head by taking the clip and half moon keepers off the back end. It should not be neccesary to take this apart for most overhauls.



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Bob

04-17-2005 12:03:41




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 Re: Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info pl in reply to awhtx, 04-17-2005 05:42:35  
IH Blue Ribbon injection pump service manuals often come up on ebay, and have the pertinent information needed on exploded views to work on other Roosa Master versions, even though there may be occasional variations.



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Bill from MO

04-17-2005 10:47:13




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 Re: Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info pl in reply to awhtx, 04-17-2005 05:42:35  
I am also interested in any info.
I have 961-D that the engine will speed up to about 2300 RPM in idle position and then come back to idle. I have been told that this a problem with the govenor. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Bill



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gerard

04-17-2005 15:52:12




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 Re: Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info pl in reply to Bill from MO, 04-17-2005 10:47:13  
Reving up and down is usually a sign of air getting into pump. Check this out first before getting into pump.
Hope this helps.



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Larry NCKS

04-17-2005 17:52:12




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 Re: Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info pl in reply to gerard, 04-17-2005 15:52:12  
Revving up and down on these is an indication that governor ring is shot also. That was my symtoms and problem when I OH'ed mine.



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Joey R

04-17-2005 08:25:54




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 Re: Larry NCKS: Roosa Master injector pump info pl in reply to awhtx, 04-17-2005 05:42:35  
Hi Alan,
I sent you an email. I've got a spare governor ring f you need it.
Joe



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