Ford 4000 HD Industrial

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Hi guys, new to the forum. Im looking at purchasing my first tractor. Its a Ford 4000 Industrial. I've done some research on them. I was hoping you guys could help figure out exactly what I'm looking at here. The numbers are as follows...414018 and 5964 under neath that number.
From what I can decipher from this its a 172 gas engine, produced after 1963? heavy duty industrial w/ subframe?, 4 speed w PTO.
5964 serial number says its a 1962, but that contradicts the "built after '63" in the model number.
I know for a fact the tractor is a gas engine and I know it has a PTO. My biggest concern was not having the select o speed tranny. It seems as if it doesn't. The tractor also has a loader, 712 from what i can tell. Is there anything i should look for in particular w this model? From what I've read they seem like a solid tractor. Thanks for any help.
 
Thats a heavy duty industrial with subframe, model 4140, The 1 after that is PTO. The 8 doesnt show on Smiths Old Ford Tractors. Do you think maybe its an S for Sherman? If it has a Sherman reverser in it, it will have a shift lever on the left side, Shift knob up close to steering wheel. You can check the casting number date on the tranny to see the day it was cast. It should have a Letter(denotes year I think) and two numbers close to brake pedals I think. It looks like it has a screw cast into it at each end of the numer. It could be a transplanted tranny from a '62.
 
I have a 63 4000 Industrial with the loader and backhoe and I love that tractor as it's extremely handy and strong. It's nimble
and small enough to fit just about anywhere. It's never failed to start in the nine years I've had it. The down side for me is
the PO changed the SOS and replaced it with a five speed. Using the hoe on a hill the footpads have to be very secure. Went for a
ride downhill once when I was in the rear seat.
 
I know its probably rare in a Ford 4140, but how do you tell if someone put a 192 4 cylinder gas engine in one? I have never seen the engine serial number range for these if there is one and I don't know where the engine casting number is on a regular or industrial tractor of this period.
 
I know its probably rare in a Ford 4140, but how do you tell if someone put a 192 4 cylinder gas engine in one?

Process of elimination....

172 casting part numbers are on lower right side of block:
C0NN-6015C - 172D-G late 1960-1964
C0NN-6015J - 172 late 1960-1964

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Industrial serial and model number stamping are the same location as Agricultural tractors.
 
Actually the production run for your tractor started in Aug 1962 so the second number 1 would indicate that.

Kirk
 
Are you sure that is an "8" at the end of the model code and not an "S?" I have a 4000 industrial with a 4 speed, no PTO,
Sherman aux trans, and 172 gas engine. Model 41301S ser. # 18114
 
Thank you all for your fast responses and help. After closer inspection it is in fact an "S" like a few have stated and not an "8" as I originally thought. So it has a sherman 4 speed? The gear sequence and pattern is on a placard under the steering wheel. Reads "over/under transmission". Is this a reliable transmission?
Tractor has alittle over 3000 hours and is in pretty decent shape. With how it is set up with the loader, 4 speed, PTO what do you guys think it would be worth? Is there any problems these are prone to? Im a mechanic and am able to work on/fix my own stuff but the world of tractors is a whole new world to me...
 
After closer inspection it is in fact an "S" like a few have stated and not an "8" as I originally thought. So it has a sherman 4 speed?

The main transmission is the original Ford 4 speed. The Sherman is an auxiliary transmission that sits inside the bell housing between the clutch and the main 4 speed transmission. Your Sherman is what is called a "combo" It has an overdrive, an underdrive, and normal gearing. It is a good reliable auxiliary transmission, but the one drawback with it changing the input speed to the main transmisison is that it also changes the PTO speed, so it doesn't help with the ground speed when using a PTO driven implement.
 
Serial numbers would not designate anything as having a Sherman or other auxiliary transmission. Those units were always optional accessories, never factory installed.

Tim Daley(MI)
 
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My buddy Don Olson worked for FORD for 44 years, 22 at Ford Tractor and owns a 4140 Industrial Tractor among many others. I sent him this thread LINK and he said if you want more help, you can call him direct so my email is open, just click on my name and I will supply you with his contact info.

Tim Daley(MI)
 

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