Massey 65 Steering Arm and Tie Rods

fixt

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1964 Utility model Direct Injection Diesel

I completed my front end spindle and hub bearings, all is well there. It made a great deal of steering difference, much easier now.

I jacked it up and checked the front pivot and there was surprisingly little play.
I'm calling that one good.

I did see quite a bit of slack movement between the right hand tie rod and the main steering arm where the tie rod goes up into the steering arm.
How is that put together?
Is the bolt on the tie rod threaded into the steering arm?
I'm kinda worried about having a wallowed out hole in the steering arm; I found a new old stock tie rod.
 
Yes. Tie rod threads into the steering arm. It could just be
loose. I'd try tightening it up. Maybe it's wallowed out. If
you end up with a new one put some never seize on it.
 
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Thanks again guys.
I wonder can the steering arm be rebuilt if the threaded hole is wallowed out.
Maybe bored and and a threaded bushing welded in?
Is it cast steel?
I'll check it today if I can get time and it don't rain [b:3b4d6ccb33]again.[/b:3b4d6ccb33]

Another thing I found.
I was playing with the lift and it seemed my hydraulic oil is foamy/milky. Level appears to be good.
The lift feels "twitchy" when I push down on it. Not to the "erratic" stage yet.
Is this a water issue or an oil issue (not sticky valves please)?
I could change the oil to a recommended type if it would help.
Again, I do not know the history of this tractor, so I don't know what is in it. It looks clean
 
More than likely the trans/hydraulic oil has water in it, that is very common. If the rubber boot where the upper 3 point, and or the rubber boots around the shift levers are missing they will let water get in if the tractor was always parked out in the open especially in the rain.
 
If you are talking about the boot spring cover #180980M1, no it does not have one. I'll look into getting a new one, I didn't know there was supposed to be one there. All the lever shift boots were new when I got it.

The tractor was sitting outside when I got it for how long I do not know. So there's a real possibility of water contamination. Its probably a good idea to change the hydraulic oil. That's the cheapest way to see how it responds.

What do you think about the steering arm repair? (if needed)
 
(quoted from post at 07:07:03 02/21/18) If you are talking about the boot spring cover #180980M1, no it does not have one. I'll look into getting a new one, I didn't know there was supposed to be one there. What do you think about the steering arm repair? (if needed)


The 180980M1 boot was what I was talkin about, the steering arm I would think would be cast steel. As far as repairing the steering arm depends on how much material is left by the time you bore it out, it may not be thick enough to hold up. The 188550M2 steering arm that your tractor should need is still out there.
 

I just looked on fleabay. There was one at $212. That's a little pricey to me but then so are the tie rods. I gotta get out there tomorrow and check the old one to see if it can be tightened up or if its just shot.
Also gotta put in a new dishwasher and haul the old one off. The fuel sender will also be here, a lower priority.
It never rains but it pours.
 

Well, the good news is that the steering arm is ok. It is an egg shaped hole in the right hand tire rod. I'm ordering one today and cheaper than AGCO even. Dang thing is still high.

The tie rod nut that goes into the steering arm won't budge. I will have to try a little heat and a hammer after I wipe the old grease off. It is right hand thread, right?
Maybe I can get some universal boots to fit the tie rod ends.
 

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