Jubilee paint

Lynn Patrick

Well-known Member
Are the fan shroud & fan on a Jubilee red or black? I am finally getting to the tin work on mine. This will not be a queen & I'm not trying to impress the originality police, but while I'm painting I may as well try to make some things the right color.
 

Fan and shroud are red. radiator is black. seat is black. genny and starter are red. manifolds were red.
 
Hi Lynn, I just went out and looked at my 54. What paint is still on both the shroud and fan is red.
 
Thanks guys! This thing had the worst paint job I ever saw - faded pink! I don't know if it is some very faded red paint or just red primer!
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(quoted from post at 11:12:46 05/26/18) Thanks guys! This thing had the worst paint job I ever saw - faded pink! I don't know if it is some very faded red paint or just red primer!
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You see many many old Farmalls that same shade of red. The Local FFA did a job on a friend's H some twenty years ago. Back then it looked new now it looks like your Jubilee did. Red is very prone to fading if you use plain equipment paint.
 
"manifolds were red."

Around 10 p.m. after working all day, they sure were!
I'm not so sure they were ever painted by Ford though.
Seems like it would have burned off.
I'd honestly like to know if they were painted.
No sarcasm or disagreement in that statement, honest curiosity.

Fan, shroud, starter, genny I concur.
Even though I don't always paint mine that way.
I like black accents. Sometimes including the throttle rods.

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(quoted from post at 21:19:21 05/26/18) "manifolds were red."

Around 10 p.m. after working all day, they sure were!
I'm not so sure they were ever painted by Ford though.
Seems like it would have burned off.
I'd honestly like to know if they were painted.
No sarcasm or disagreement in that statement, honest curiosity.

Fan, shroud, starter, genny I concur.
Even though I don't always paint mine that way.
I like black accents. Sometimes including the throttle rods.

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Royse, this has come up a number of times over the years. Yes, they were red because they were on there when the red paint got sprayed on. They of course didn't want to paint the valve stems. I understand that the contrast of additional colors are pleasing to the eye. I paint my control rods silver. If you ever want to know the color of a part I have a brochure from 1958 that used actual color photos as opposed to colorized black and white.
 
Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?
 
(quoted from post at 06:51:14 05/27/18) Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?

The carbs are red, the exhaust manifolds in the picture are dark gray/brown. The back 2/3 of the muffler is the same dark gray/brown, while the front third is red. These pics are of 601s and 801s on a new home landscaping job. Some other little details are: the coil clamp is black, the distributor is not painted, and the cap screws holding the sheet metal to the lower dash are plated.

Colin
 
(quoted from post at 15:49:44 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 06:51:14 05/27/18) Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?

The carbs are red, the exhaust manifolds in the picture are dark gray/brown. The back 2/3 of the muffler is the same dark gray/brown, while the front third is red. These pics are of 601s and 801s on a new home landscaping job. Some other little details are: the coil clamp is black, the distributor is not painted, and the cap screws holding the sheet metal to the lower dash are plated.

Colin
Thanks again. Makes sense that the coil and sheetmetal screws
would be different. Carb and exhaust painted, but not the sediment
bowls? Seems odd that they would paint over the brass
tags and adjustment screws/springs on the carbs. I would have
thought they were adjusted before they left the factory grounds.
Also seems odd to me that they would plug the distributor hole
but not plug the manifold holes while painting. Too bad I can't
go back in time and watch the process. I would find it interesting.

I did watch brand new John Deere's being painted in their factory.
The robots that paint them with Valspar paint are pretty impressive.
There are two guys in oxygen fed suits waiting for them to
come out of the paint booth to do any touch-up the robots missed.
I'll bet they know every place the robots miss and cuss the programmers for it!
 
(quoted from post at 15:19:13 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 15:49:44 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 06:51:14 05/27/18) Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?

The carbs are red, the exhaust manifolds in the picture are dark gray/brown. The back 2/3 of the muffler is the same dark gray/brown, while the front third is red. These pics are of 601s and 801s on a new home landscaping job. Some other little details are: the coil clamp is black, the distributor is not painted, and the cap screws holding the sheet metal to the lower dash are plated.

Colin
Thanks again. Makes sense that the coil and sheetmetal screws
would be different. Carb and exhaust painted, but not the sediment
bowls? Seems odd that they would paint over the brass
tags and adjustment screws/springs on the carbs. I would have
thought they were adjusted before they left the factory grounds.
Also seems odd to me that they would plug the distributor hole
but not plug the manifold holes while painting. Too bad I can't
go back in time and watch the process. I would find it interesting.

I did watch brand new John Deere's being painted in their factory.
The robots that paint them with Valspar paint are pretty impressive.
There are two guys in oxygen fed suits waiting for them to
come out of the paint booth to do any touch-up the robots missed.
I'll bet they know every place the robots miss and cuss the programmers for it!

As you know the gas tanks were added after painting along with the fuel line and sediment bowl. The carburetors probably came to the factory with a plug at both the air and gas inlets. The distributor would probably have been installed with cap and wires on it immediately after the plugs, and then the control rods . Perhaps the carbs came from MS preset, and final running check was the responsibility of the dealer. They may have had slightly different settings according to elevation.
 
(quoted from post at 21:07:56 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 15:19:13 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 15:49:44 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 06:51:14 05/27/18) Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?

The carbs are red, the exhaust manifolds in the picture are dark gray/brown. The back 2/3 of the muffler is the same dark gray/brown, while the front third is red. These pics are of 601s and 801s on a new home landscaping job. Some other little details are: the coil clamp is black, the distributor is not painted, and the cap screws holding the sheet metal to the lower dash are plated.

Colin
Thanks again. Makes sense that the coil and sheetmetal screws
would be different. Carb and exhaust painted, but not the sediment
bowls? Seems odd that they would paint over the brass
tags and adjustment screws/springs on the carbs. I would have
thought they were adjusted before they left the factory grounds.
Also seems odd to me that they would plug the distributor hole
but not plug the manifold holes while painting. Too bad I can't
go back in time and watch the process. I would find it interesting.

I did watch brand new John Deere's being painted in their factory.
The robots that paint them with Valspar paint are pretty impressive.
There are two guys in oxygen fed suits waiting for them to
come out of the paint booth to do any touch-up the robots missed.
I'll bet they know every place the robots miss and cuss the programmers for it!

As you know the gas tanks were added after painting along with the fuel line and sediment bowl. The carburetors probably came to the factory with a plug at both the air and gas inlets. The distributor would probably have been installed with cap and wires on it immediately after the plugs, and then the control rods . Perhaps the carbs came from MS preset, and final running check was the responsibility of the dealer. They may have had slightly different settings according to elevation.
As you say, the gas tank obviously had to be added afterwards.
Likely the fuel line and sediment bowl too, that's why I was asking
about the paint job, to see what they did and did not paint.

I'm trying to picture the manufacturing process and it seems to
me at the end of the assembly line they would have started them
and driven them out into the storage area. Is that not so?
I can see adjustments for elevation differences being left to the
dealers but it seems like they would have made sure they ran.

I have no personal experience in this area but my whole family
has worked in automotive plants and they tell me every car had
to at least start and drive or it went to the repair facility/department.
Not to mention the ones that went there for flaws in the paint.
 
(quoted from post at 19:57:27 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 21:07:56 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 15:19:13 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 15:49:44 05/27/18)
(quoted from post at 06:51:14 05/27/18) Thanks showcrop, I remember it being discussed too.
Were the carbs in the brochure painted as well? Only the outside?

The carbs are red, the exhaust manifolds in the picture are dark gray/brown. The back 2/3 of the muffler is the same dark gray/brown, while the front third is red. These pics are of 601s and 801s on a new home landscaping job. Some other little details are: the coil clamp is black, the distributor is not painted, and the cap screws holding the sheet metal to the lower dash are plated.

Colin
Thanks again. Makes sense that the coil and sheetmetal screws
would be different. Carb and exhaust painted, but not the sediment
bowls? Seems odd that they would paint over the brass
tags and adjustment screws/springs on the carbs. I would have
thought they were adjusted before they left the factory grounds.
Also seems odd to me that they would plug the distributor hole
but not plug the manifold holes while painting. Too bad I can't
go back in time and watch the process. I would find it interesting.

I did watch brand new John Deere's being painted in their factory.
The robots that paint them with Valspar paint are pretty impressive.
There are two guys in oxygen fed suits waiting for them to
come out of the paint booth to do any touch-up the robots missed.
I'll bet they know every place the robots miss and cuss the programmers for it!

As you know the gas tanks were added after painting along with the fuel line and sediment bowl. The carburetors probably came to the factory with a plug at both the air and gas inlets. The distributor would probably have been installed with cap and wires on it immediately after the plugs, and then the control rods . Perhaps the carbs came from MS preset, and final running check was the responsibility of the dealer. They may have had slightly different settings according to elevation.
As you say, the gas tank obviously had to be added afterwards.
Likely the fuel line and sediment bowl too, that's why I was asking
about the paint job, to see what they did and did not paint.

I'm trying to picture the manufacturing process and it seems to
me at the end of the assembly line they would have started them
and driven them out into the storage area. Is that not so?
I can see adjustments for elevation differences being left to the
dealers but it seems like they would have made sure they ran.

I have no personal experience in this area but my whole family
has worked in automotive plants and they tell me every car had
to at least start and drive or it went to the repair facility/department.
Not to mention the ones that went there for flaws in the paint.

I am sure that they ran them, but as I said, I speculate that the carbs came in and were preset by MS. After all they had to set the screw somewhere, and we know that they will run well even if the air screw is 1/4 off either way. So I think that it was unlikely that they would have had many that would not run with the carb just left the way it came in the door.
 
(quoted from post at 21:19:21 05/26/18) "manifolds were red."

Around 10 p.m. after working all day, they sure were!
I'm not so sure they were ever painted by Ford though.
Seems like it would have burned off.
I'd honestly like to know if they were painted.
No sarcasm or disagreement in that statement, honest curiosity.

Fan, shroud, starter, genny I concur.
Even though I don't always paint mine that way.
I like black accents. Sometimes including the throttle rods.

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Royse. Mind if I intrude ? In your picture, is your water pump & pulley new ? Mine was very dirty so I separated carefully and cleaned & painted. will attempt to install carefully too. And my Exh Man is Repro like yours. My Frt.& Rear holes are 5/8" Dia. 1/4" larger than the rest. Was yours that way too ?

Thanks for any insights.
 
(quoted from post at 12:12:47 05/29/18)
(quoted from post at 21:19:21 05/26/18) "manifolds were red."

Around 10 p.m. after working all day, they sure were!
I'm not so sure they were ever painted by Ford though.
Seems like it would have burned off.
I'd honestly like to know if they were painted.
No sarcasm or disagreement in that statement, honest curiosity.

Fan, shroud, starter, genny I concur.
Even though I don't always paint mine that way.
I like black accents. Sometimes including the throttle rods.

17164.jpg

Royse. Mind if I intrude ? In your picture, is your water pump & pulley new ? Mine was very dirty so I separated carefully and cleaned & painted. will attempt to install carefully too. And my Exh Man is Repro like yours. My Frt.& Rear holes are 5/8" Dia. 1/4" larger than the rest. Was yours that way too ?

Thanks for any insights.
Yes, waterpump and pulley were new. I didn't notice any different sized holes in the manifold.
 

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