I was helping an older fellow with 2 bad knees. He has 5 Alis WD's but can't climb on them any more. Has a John Deere which is some easier for him to get to the seat. What would be a good tractor, around 50 HP that is easy to get to the seat and work the controls. He has a couple of oil wells so maybe he would buy new. I think front wheel assist would also help him. He has some cows and feeds round bales in winter.
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Janicholson
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My best suggestion is to visit dealers and give them a look. Trying on several (and using the foot controls) the best solution might be a cab based tractor with open foot area in front of the seat.
Additional closer together steps can be made to allow easier mounting. Jim
Additional closer together steps can be made to allow easier mounting. Jim
The ideal thing to get would be an IVT or CVT transmission, Unfortunately they are only on BIG ag tractors. How ever I would look for something with a powershift possibly as there would be less need for clutching and possibly braking. As for and older tractor, A john deere with a hand clutch, maybe something along a 720, 730 ?
Pat I do not have any first hand knowledge on the 5M tractors. I know they have expanded the line of 5000s tractor to include many models. The 5E tractors are made in India and Mexico. I would stay away from them my self. Most of those engines are not sleeved engines so if they need overhauled you are boring a block.
The 5003 where the first made in India. The 5005 where made in Mexico. The 5005 where not too bad. The 5003 where just a step above junk in my estimation. If you are looking at the 5E series or the older 5003 series you may as well go by some off brand like Mihindra or TYM. You are getting the same quality and they are cheaper than the green junk. John Deere, any more, thinks they can paint a turd green and it will not stink anymore.
The 5M tractors are made in the Augusta, Georgia plant like the original 5000 series. The 10,20,25 series where all pretty good tractors made there too. The 5M is supposed to be the newer version of them. Just watch the horsepower game. John Deere started using gross engine horse power NOT PTO horse power. So the 5065m tractor is 65 gross hp and 50 pto hp. I also don"t like how these tractors are not Nebraska Tested any more, just factory observed. They maybe correct but I don"t trust any company not to pad the numbers.
I think ALL states should require the official test. Then companies could not opt out. Plus that would keep Nebraska"s test facility going. Those tests have protected several generations of purchasers. Kubota started the jump around band wagon. They just don"t sell in Nebraska.
The 5003 where the first made in India. The 5005 where made in Mexico. The 5005 where not too bad. The 5003 where just a step above junk in my estimation. If you are looking at the 5E series or the older 5003 series you may as well go by some off brand like Mihindra or TYM. You are getting the same quality and they are cheaper than the green junk. John Deere, any more, thinks they can paint a turd green and it will not stink anymore.
The 5M tractors are made in the Augusta, Georgia plant like the original 5000 series. The 10,20,25 series where all pretty good tractors made there too. The 5M is supposed to be the newer version of them. Just watch the horsepower game. John Deere started using gross engine horse power NOT PTO horse power. So the 5065m tractor is 65 gross hp and 50 pto hp. I also don"t like how these tractors are not Nebraska Tested any more, just factory observed. They maybe correct but I don"t trust any company not to pad the numbers.
I think ALL states should require the official test. Then companies could not opt out. Plus that would keep Nebraska"s test facility going. Those tests have protected several generations of purchasers. Kubota started the jump around band wagon. They just don"t sell in Nebraska.
I really do like the 5m series, the E series i hands down do not like. However if you ever have the chance to operate an 8R series tractor with the IVT TAKE IT. I took a class on it this winter, along with the 5M series in comparison to the 5000 series. The IVT really is a engineering marvel. the large frame 7000 series IVT made by the ZF? company in germany is also a marvel
I have a JD 5303 made in India and I love it. Three years old now, so I don't know what will happen to the engine in the future, and I use it for loader work and cutting/tedding/raking hay. And some bushog work. So not real intense pulling work.
I agree with others that it is very easy to get in/get off of, shift levers are to the side, flat platform. I think any tractor will be hard to get up on with bad knees though - every tractor I've ever been on had at least one or two steps.
THe JD 5303 is defintely easier to get on than my Farmall 460, which I have to get on from the back. I like the convienence of the JD, but the 460 is the sentimental favorite on the farm!
I agree with others that it is very easy to get in/get off of, shift levers are to the side, flat platform. I think any tractor will be hard to get up on with bad knees though - every tractor I've ever been on had at least one or two steps.
THe JD 5303 is defintely easier to get on than my Farmall 460, which I have to get on from the back. I like the convienence of the JD, but the 460 is the sentimental favorite on the farm!
Ken Macfarlane
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Nonsense. I've got the Nebraska test for my Kubota. Not really applicable for smaller tractors anyways.
Nebraska Cowman
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but Nebraska no longer requires testing for tractors rated under 50 horsepower.
Michael Soldan
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..that would be a B or C Allis Chalmers! NOT! They were the worst tractors to get on and off.
Anonymous-0
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Many of the norwegians north of here farmed with ac wd/wd45 tractors and were having kids born with one leg shorter then the other so they could drive them !
He obviously likes AC- maybe get a D14-D15-D17 and add a step on each side...sure made a difference on mine- just a few bucks of scrap steel welded together makes a big difference for frequent mounting. As I"ve gotten older and gained mobility issues, I"ve added HM steps to all my tractors, no matter the size.
I find that the easiest for me is my Oliver 77. Really the Oliver 66 and 88 are the same. I do have a set of Oliver steps that makes it very easy to get on as it adds one more set to climb between the drawbar and the axle housing. My Oliver 1650 and 1850 is hard for me to get on because for the higher steps. I have a step For My Allis B's and C's and can get on but to get off I have to swing my legs over the side and slide off the tire. I use my Farmall C to crimp hay and I can not get my leg between the steering wheel and the seat. I have to throw my leg over the seat which is a chore for me.
All that said, everyones pain in movement is not the same so the fellow probly would need to try out several makes to see what works for him. Us old guys have to do what we have to do to keep active with our tractors.
All that said, everyones pain in movement is not the same so the fellow probly would need to try out several makes to see what works for him. Us old guys have to do what we have to do to keep active with our tractors.
Bob Bancroft
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You're almost right! The B is the worst. At least the C is enough wider that you can step on the drawbar and then on the axle outside of the fender.
Got rained out of the field yesterday. So I just put the little Bush Hog on the C and mowed roadsides.
Got rained out of the field yesterday. So I just put the little Bush Hog on the C and mowed roadsides.
Tony in Mass.
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These replies are all funny! And all true. Old AC's are all tough, especially the old timers,I reckon they were 'early agribiz' machines, climb into it like an airplane, and stay in the seat till lunch time, have a ground crew walking along or something, you just can't jump on or off any of the early ones. D series are OK, but you still have to brace up your pantleg and get your heel up on deck like mounting a horse. Which is why all old tractors climbed up from the left?- like a horse? I thought about this- hopefully for way in the future- when replacing my otherwise awesome AC's a few years ago, I chose MF, anything under 70 horse doesn't even need a sturrup, but Fords that size are just as easy. If you are into green or red, your hp's are limited. I'd go to the shows and ask owners if you could sit in it... I should have did that before I paid for a mini mo 4 star years ago.... so low to the ground I couldn't see over the steering wheel!
gene bender
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AC didnt make a tractor friendly to get on and off till the D series came out. Why would you buy a tractor so unhandy to get on and off is hard to understand.
The Oliver 550 I had was easy to get on and off. Gearshift lever offset to one side. John Deere 2010 is easy on and off, but That's the only advantage.
Some medium sized Russian Belarus with a front end loader was the worst tractor I ever saw for getting on and off. I got on and off of it ONCE on a dealer's yard and that killed whatever very slight interest I had in it.
KEH
Joseph Hunter
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Knew a Farmer that had a helper who weighed over 500 lbs. They would stand him on the 3 point on their john deere 4020 and raise him up and he would get in the seat and stayed there till someone came back to the field to help lower him back down
A 52 PTO hp Farmtrac 70 with it's flat deck & levers beside the seat might be a candidate. I t does have two ladder-style steps to get to the flat deck. a third step could easily be added. has lots of handles to help lift oneself up. I had a real bad knee last fall & of my 16 tractors, this one was easiest on & off for this old geeser. I'd sell it if it would fit this gentleman. Only has 400 hrs on it.
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