HI, JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ADVICE ON HOW TO GET GUYS TO PICKUP TRACTORS BOUGHT 15 MONTHS AGO , THEY PAID NO PROBLEM BUT AS FAR AS PICKUP THEY DONT CALL OR EMAIL. I HAVE CALLED THEM BOTH AND ONE GUY GIVE ME A RANDOM WEEKED THEN DID'NT SHOW OR THE OTHER GUY IS STILL GETTING A TRUCK LINED UP. I AM IN WI. AND ONE GOES TO MARYLAND AND THE OTHER TO IOWA. THANKS
- Thread starter TIM HIBEN
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I would leave them a message and inform them that you have kept their property for free long, and fair enough. Tell them at this point you will have to charge them the fair market rate for storage fees. The other concern is, "what if damage occurs to one of them, or mechanical failure due to sitting around for such a long time"?
Uncle Ernie
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Give them a final date one week from now. Send them a certified letter starting the date and that if the tractor is not gone by then storage charges of a specific ammount will be assessed.
Or offer to refund their money and resell the tractor.
Or offer to refund their money and resell the tractor.
Allan in NE
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Oh heck,
Sell 'em again to someone else and they'll be on your doorstep tomorrow mornin' whinin' to no end. :>)
Allan
Sell 'em again to someone else and they'll be on your doorstep tomorrow mornin' whinin' to no end. :>)
Allan
I don't know how it works in Wisconsin,or with a private sale,but I consigned some things on a neighbors auction back in 87. A few pieces of equipment never got picked up. The neighbor wanted it out of there. I asked the auctioneer how to get ahold of the buyer. He told me that if it wasn't picked up in a year,it belonged to me. I went and got it. Then ironically,I sold one piece to a neighbor just to the south a few years later and HE never came after it. The darned thing sat around here for another 20 years til I finally hauled it to the crusher last fall.
Maybe I should have just sold it again to somebody who wouldn't come and get it. I person could make a pretty good living that way if you had enough volume I suppose.
Maybe I should have just sold it again to somebody who wouldn't come and get it. I person could make a pretty good living that way if you had enough volume I suppose.
Tim------I have had that happen a couple of times also. For the future make sure you define pick up terms in writing. I even sent a registered letter to the buyer. I finally simply just resold the tractor and never heard from them again. I for sure would give them a time line. Storage charges , etc. start to ad up after a while and even if it is only $5 per day, that mounts up quickly. Also remember that some people die, others move and others are simply goofy.
When a similar situation happened to me I sent the buyer a letter informing him that if the tractor was not removed within 30 days I would charge a storage fee of $50 per month until it was. I then send a storage bill each month after the thirty day notice.
The buyer picked it up three months later and paid $100 for storage.
Dean
The buyer picked it up three months later and paid $100 for storage.
Dean
might not help you now,but when I sell I tell them right up front you have X number of days to get it moved.i dont run a storage place.quite honestly it will be a deal breaker sometimes,but if folks know they are going to lose it most will get on the ball.of course I'll be reasonable if a person really does have trouble,but only so far.
Every state has "abandoned property" laws- find out what yours is, and follow the procedure. Not sure what it is with personal property in general in Washington, but as regards stuff left in abandoned rental houses, you have to send a letter to last known address, advising they have 45 days to pick it up, or it will be sold.
I sold a grain auger on craigslist about 2 months ago. The guy gave me cash and said he'd be back in a week to get it. I have not heard from him since. I get nervous about leaving something for a day or so after I buy it yet alone weeks or months. Guess others look at it differently than I do.
With everyone crying poverty these days, I can't believe that people will fork over money for something and then never come and get it!
When I look at something, I show up with a stack of $100s and a trailer. No money exchanges hands until the machine is on my trailer and strapped down.
Frankly I wouldn't feel right about keeping the money and selling the item again. I'd have to make every effort to refund the delinquent buyer's money, especially if I can still make contact with him.
The agreement would be, I'd refund his money and put the item up for sale again. If he still wants it, he shows up with the money and a trailer. No trailer, no sale.
When I look at something, I show up with a stack of $100s and a trailer. No money exchanges hands until the machine is on my trailer and strapped down.
Frankly I wouldn't feel right about keeping the money and selling the item again. I'd have to make every effort to refund the delinquent buyer's money, especially if I can still make contact with him.
The agreement would be, I'd refund his money and put the item up for sale again. If he still wants it, he shows up with the money and a trailer. No trailer, no sale.
If I know there is a possibility of it sitting for a while I ask the owner if it is ok to sit there for this amount of time, but I'm assuming this person didn't do that. If something is far away I like to buy a trailer load of stuff in the area before I pick everything up (just bought a power unit in Kansas that the auction company says it has to be gone in 14 days owner said it could sit until I come down in August). Is the guy local or from a long distance away.
I know of a MF 97 with FWA that the owner sold about 15 years ago to a DEALERSHIP and the tractor still sits in the back corner of this barn to this day and he still won't sell it.
I know of a MF 97 with FWA that the owner sold about 15 years ago to a DEALERSHIP and the tractor still sits in the back corner of this barn to this day and he still won't sell it.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Leave them a message thanking them for picking their tractor up and say you were sorry you missed them because you'd been out of town for a few days.Bet you'll hear from them then.Then when they call back apologize and say it was a misunderstanding that the neighbor teenage boy had borrowed it to do some disking.Again.
Deere Scotty
Member
Send a certified letter giving them "X" amount of time to pick up the items; say 30 days or more. Tell them if they are not picked up by the deadline You will have them towed, or hauled to a towing yard! Where they will be charged a daily fee in which will probably be due in cash before the item can be removed. Towing yards are aggresive, & i'll bet they wont want to mess with em!
But You keep the money, & get rid of the tractor. It wouldnt hurt to call local police, & have a police report made out to protect you from a law suit. Maybe the police could tow it for you!
Scotty
But You keep the money, & get rid of the tractor. It wouldnt hurt to call local police, & have a police report made out to protect you from a law suit. Maybe the police could tow it for you!
Scotty
As far as the random answers on here, I like Traditional Farmers the best. Yank their chain a little, before you go to the next level. But when you do go to the next level, do it right.
Then there was a client of mine, who bought a tractor a couple of states away (Montana)- he lost contact with the seller, and when he finally showed up a couple years later to pick it up, seller had moved to parts unknown, tractor was gone, and he never did find it.
Then there was a client of mine, who bought a tractor a couple of states away (Montana)- he lost contact with the seller, and when he finally showed up a couple years later to pick it up, seller had moved to parts unknown, tractor was gone, and he never did find it.
You just came up with a new policy you property is for your use .--- Just start charging them monthly storage . tell them to get them out in 30 days or expect a monthly bill for another 6 months and then will consider them abandoned and will resell without refund. fair to you and better than fair to customer.
John M
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- Nunyafn business
15 months, and they aint got them yet! What tractors!?
Billy Shafer
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In Texas after thirty days you can charge for storage. Also I think you can sell the item,after you have notified the owner by letter. But I would think after fifteen months. There not going to pick them up.
I haven't met anyone yet who would be able to load anything/have something loaded on their trailer without having the money for the item handed to the seller first. I sure as heck wouldn't load anything for a buyer or allow him or her to load it themselves without having payment in my hands if I were the one selling something. I wouldn't unload it if I were delivering it without payment being made, either.
There are some who would find it much too easy to tuck a stack of $10's or $1's between two $100's, or have a fist full of monopoly money. Then the guy tries to re-negotiate when it's chained to his trailer. "I thought I had $400, but I only have $310. How ever did I not notice that? $310 will still work, right?" They could even just drive off.
A potential buyer waving green $$$ around does nothing for me. Being able to put the amount of it I want for an item I'm selling into my pocket might. Certainly, nothing will be loaded until that time. When selling something, I inspect cash just as a buyer would inspect an item.
AG
Anonymous-0
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Do you have lower case on your computer? If so, use it as all upper is very annoying.
Well, you haven't been to my place. You're not loading anything until I have the cash in hand. After you pay me, and I count it and put it in my pocket, I'll go to the house and you can do whatever you want.
Have you actually had anyone let you load before paying? Please let me know who it was, because I've got some swampland I want to sell him. . .
Have you actually had anyone let you load before paying? Please let me know who it was, because I've got some swampland I want to sell him. . .
RandyB(MI)
Well-known Member
Very often they are trying to re-sell for profit and save the trucking charges. They may sell it 10 miles from you when they may live two states away. Savvy?
smallercrawler
Member
With respect-nothing of mine goes on anyone's transport until cash is in my hand, counted, and
verified as real with magic pen. I have no problem buying that way either (that's where I learned it); have even taken twenties to seller as he didn't feel comfortable with larger bills.
Long way from the old handshake deals-but as they tell me-"times change".
verified as real with magic pen. I have no problem buying that way either (that's where I learned it); have even taken twenties to seller as he didn't feel comfortable with larger bills.
Long way from the old handshake deals-but as they tell me-"times change".
CoopertownBob
Member
Contact a local moving and storage firm in your area and ask them what they are allowed to charge for unclaimed property. In TN, it was $75 /month the last time I checked, but that has been 18 years ago. Usually, after one year, with no prior arrangements, the property is considered to be abandoned and is yours to sell for the unpaid storage fees. Most storage places will not let it go that long, closing it out and selling it at 6 months of unpaid storage, but a friend of mine who owns one of the largest storage facilities in this area is generous and won't sell their stuff till it has been a year, since times have been very hard these last few years. He and I both don't understand why the people won't pick it up and sell it themselves, then pay the storage bill and pocket the rest, as sometimes there is just junk in there but many times there are valuables worth far above the back fees owed. Oh well, it is like when I used to move people for a living. People pay by both the mileage and the pound to move their belongings from one house to another, know this going in, yet still nearly everyone would sit by the truck as we UNLOADED and say to put this or that in the pile to go in the trash!
I'd disagree with you here.
I'd give the purchaser a reasonible notice. I.e. 4 weeks to get property. After 4 weeks there will be a storage fee imposed of $___.____ a month and the item will be posted for re-sale.
If and only if it re-sell then I would consider refunding the purchasers money and only up to the amount of the initial sale less hastle/storage fees, or the amount of the re-sale price, which ever is less.
Makes no since to me why I have to go out of my way for someone after 15 months.
Jeff
I'd give the purchaser a reasonible notice. I.e. 4 weeks to get property. After 4 weeks there will be a storage fee imposed of $___.____ a month and the item will be posted for re-sale.
If and only if it re-sell then I would consider refunding the purchasers money and only up to the amount of the initial sale less hastle/storage fees, or the amount of the re-sale price, which ever is less.
Makes no since to me why I have to go out of my way for someone after 15 months.
Jeff
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