johnwayne360
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That someone was cleaning out an old shed and found what appears to be a full can of ddt. what should be done with it?
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Ultradog MN
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Know any friends who live in a big city?
Most big cities/counties have a program where you can haul all your household chemicals to a disposal site and they will take it for free.
Here you must show a drivers license to verify that you are a resident of said municipality but it is rather painless. Things that can be reused - paint, thinners, chemicals, oils and lubricants, etc, etc are free for the taking.
Hazardous items are disposed of according to law.
Most big cities/counties have a program where you can haul all your household chemicals to a disposal site and they will take it for free.
Here you must show a drivers license to verify that you are a resident of said municipality but it is rather painless. Things that can be reused - paint, thinners, chemicals, oils and lubricants, etc, etc are free for the taking.
Hazardous items are disposed of according to law.
Hi johnwayne: The other post said: "Hazardous items are disposed of according to law." And the "Law" depends on who and when you talk to people who are 'suppose' to know. Try to be careful in seeking info, as you seemed to be, since there are plenty of people who delight in 'Hanging' anyone regarding Hazardous items... and that could cost plenty of your money and not theirs. Try and keep it well contained untill you have plenty of time to search for a local way to dispose of it in a legal and cheap mannor. good luck, it can be a problem getting help rather then harrasment, but do your best. ag (retired)
Janicholson
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DDT is still used in many nations as the only way to control mosquitoes. There may be an option in that regard, but a local hazardous waste disposal sight is probably best. Jim
If I had it I would use it around my pond and livestock sheds. DDT was outlawed in the US in 1972 during the envioronmental hysteria of the late 60's early 70's largely on ''evidence'' from a big selling book of the era, Silent Spring. As far as I know there is still no evidence that DDT is harmful to humans, lack of DDT has proven a disaster for the people of several different countries. In the countries of Sub-Saharan Africa mosquito born illnesses were largely under control until DDT was no longer available, no equally effective replacement has been developed in the last 40 years resulting in the deaths of literally millions of people due to insect communicated diseases. Just another noteworthy accomplishment in abundant Nanny State history.
rlp in Co.
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Well said LAA!
I would say use it, but keep in mind that, as another poster said, there are folks that will see you put in prison if they catch you "contaminating the earth" with it. It's harmless to humans. I don't know if it is harmful to pets, but I suspect it's harmless to mammals in general.
Anonymous-0
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Send it to LAA for his sub-saharan unnamed Country.
" In recent years numerous studies on DDT have shown its environmental persistence and its ability to bioaccumulate, especially in higher animals. Of particular concern is its potential to mimic hormones and thereby disrupt endocrine systems in wildlife and possibly humans."
" In recent years numerous studies on DDT have shown its environmental persistence and its ability to bioaccumulate, especially in higher animals. Of particular concern is its potential to mimic hormones and thereby disrupt endocrine systems in wildlife and possibly humans."
The main reason for the ban was the effects on bird populations.
DDT is toxic to a wide range of animals in addition to insects, including marine animals such as crayfish, daphnids, sea shrimp and many species of fish. It is less toxic to mammals, but may be moderately toxic to some amphibian species, especially in the larval stage. Most famously, it is a reproductive toxicant for certain birds species, and it is a major reason for the decline of the bald eagle,[7] brown pelican[38] peregrine falcon, and osprey.[1] Birds of prey, waterfowl, and song birds are more susceptible to eggshell thinning than chickens and related species, and DDE appears to be more potent than DDT.[1] Even in 2010, more than forty years after the U.S. ban, California condors which feed on sea lions at Big Sur which in turn feed in the Palos Verdes Shelf area of the Montrose Chemical Superfund site seemed to be having continued thin-shell problems. Scientists with the Ventana Wildlife Society and others are intensifying studies and remediations of the condors' problems.[39]
60 acre hillside
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I have a 12 ounce bottle of 25% DDT that has been here since the 1950's. It was sold by Stanley Home Products (remember Stanley Parties?) to be used to treat woolen items for protection from moths.
I do not plan to open the bottle but keep it for historical purposes
I do not plan to open the bottle but keep it for historical purposes
Anonymous-0
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Use it for the uses it was made for. When it was banned, the main reason that it was banned, was that it was the ONLY insecticide used, and everybody used it for everything, that's how it got into the food chain, to cause problems for birds of prey. Now that it is banned, use of a quart, here and there is NOT going to cause a major ecological event. Also might get rid of a generation of insects that may be developing resistance, to today's insecticides!
rustyfarmall
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Several years ago I discovered a full can of 2,4D/2,4-5T (agent orange). I went down to my local extension office and asked how best to dispose of it. The answer was to use it according to the directions on the can until it was all gone.
TomH in PA
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Around here there's a "Toxic Waste Day" every so often where you can bring stuff like that in. They took the bottles of DDT, Chlordane, and Nicotine that I found sitting on a shelf.
Bendee, my mistake, I didn't know I had to explain myself so even you would understand.
Sub Saharan Africa is a term used to classify the 47 countries south of the Sahara desert, or Niger river basin. Semi Tropical to tropical areas marked much of which is charaterized by jungle, rain forest and malarial swamps, basins and tidal low lands. I worked in several countries of Western sub saharan Africa for many years and have seen first hand the effect that western abundant nations gratuitous envioronmental arrogance has had on the indigenous populations. Thanks to the anti colonialists these are once again the poorest areas in the world where people die every single day due to of lack of clean water, starvation etc. This is all taking place in the year 2011 because the abundant elite of Western Europe and North America value power over peoples lives more than they value life.
Sub Saharan Africa is a term used to classify the 47 countries south of the Sahara desert, or Niger river basin. Semi Tropical to tropical areas marked much of which is charaterized by jungle, rain forest and malarial swamps, basins and tidal low lands. I worked in several countries of Western sub saharan Africa for many years and have seen first hand the effect that western abundant nations gratuitous envioronmental arrogance has had on the indigenous populations. Thanks to the anti colonialists these are once again the poorest areas in the world where people die every single day due to of lack of clean water, starvation etc. This is all taking place in the year 2011 because the abundant elite of Western Europe and North America value power over peoples lives more than they value life.
GeneMO
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The neighbor has about 300 lbs of granular Aldren in an old shed. I am a volunteer Water Quality Monitor through the state Dept. of Conservation. I tried calling my contacts and it is an absolute farce trying to get a state agency to help dispose of somthing like this. The landowner didn't want to get involved, and the best offer of help I could get was going to involve something like $1,000 in fees to dispose of it.
Needless to say it is going to stay in the shed till it falls down and washes into the stream.
Gene
Needless to say it is going to stay in the shed till it falls down and washes into the stream.
Gene
Tony in Mass.
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It's not like a kilo of coke, no restriction on ownership, use maybe, depends where you are. You don't have to use it use to rid yourself, thro it away or dump it all at once. We lately used up the last my father got in the 70's. Stocked up when he knew it was going away. Never went nuts with it, just time to time- there is an ant hill in the fountation, or driveway,they won't die. this kills them for good. A spoon full at a time, took 40 years to use -sparingly and carefully, he worked for the health and con dept, so he knew what it was about. Yah, originally for mosquitoes, but we never used it near water, just incase something we like to have around drank it. When I was small, he ran around with a crew on a truck and trailer- and airplane propeller- spraying ddt across the valley, he didn't think that was too smart even in the early 60's. Strong stuff. Ants? termites? turn the big guns loose! A spoonfull at a time...
Fullers Farmalls
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As others have said. DDT was banned because of the effects it had on eagle and condor populations. Rachel Carlson's book Silent Spring was a huge factor in that case. Yes it was people using it to much and overkill of every thing. But as others have said its crucial in some parts of the world to make them habitable to all. Also people over reacted and took "preventative" measures. By banning it all together at once. But it can be used. My pap used it until the last he had was gone. that was 12 years ago though.
johnwayne360
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i kind of wanted to keep the can anyway..Im way too young to have known how to use the stuff..thanks guys.
Anonymous-0
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2,4,5-T, civilian formulation, AKA Sylvex, is perfectly safe. Military versions are the ones to stay away from, they were contaminated with dioxin, in some batches. Use it up, with no regret, other than you can't get it anymore.
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