How do you determine spam ?

Old Roy

Well-known Member
This guy did use the code I ask for when posting an engine -- He also included a Pic of supposedly at work in the Army Aviation Regiment ?? . how do I determine this guy is real ?
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Good to have your reply,I am Kester Ed, from southwest VA and would
have love to come for further face to face inspection at your
residence myself, but I am a US Army Reserves working as a flight
doctor under the auspices of the aircraft Maintenance here in
Virginia. I am buying this for my son in southeast Alaska as a
surprise gift and understand i want you assure me it's in condition
described. I will appreciate more pictures if available and will be
sending your money asap. My shipper will be available to pick this up
as soon as payment is made. Do you have paypal account? because, I
have a paypal account that I can easily send money through because,
its good for business payments. Get back to me with your paypal email
address and name in order for me to have your money sent on time.
Confirm sale to me and remove the add from posting.

regards

CDT. Kester Ed,
US Army Reserves
F. Co 5-159th AVN RGT
Aviation Ops Spec. {15p}
 
To formal, *** My SHIPPER **** that is a dead give away. PAYPAL??? From a guy that you haven't met? HA I would blow it away without thinking twice. You would have to sell a lot more items a big mark up to make up for the one bad deal because the paypal payment got yanked back etc.

Run like the wind.
 
Army doesn't have a commandant, flight doctor in reference to a mechanic isn't a term that I've heard used and I spent a few years in an aviation reserve unit (doesn't make it gospel tho), wording don't fit, left out words, capitalization, and the unit he is claiming to be assigned to isn't in Va, google says Clearwater, Florida. I'd forward the entire correspondence to paypal since he will prolly use the paypal info you give him to try and hack your account.

Good Luck,

Dave
 
I read the first three lines and knew it was spam.
The whole thing has warning signs through it.
 
The reply is easy.. You would love to see him face to face also so call when you can arrange it..

It's spam, they always have a BUT.
Leave the ad there also.
 
If you cant tell thats a spam deal you are prime for getting taken that has spam all over. He doesent even know english.
 
(quoted from post at 22:37:10 08/10/11) Army doesn't have a commandant, flight doctor in reference to a mechanic isn't a term that I've heard used and I spent a few years in an aviation reserve unit (doesn't make it gospel tho), wording don't fit, left out words, capitalization, and the unit he is claiming to be assigned to isn't in Va, google says Clearwater, Florida. I'd forward the entire correspondence to paypal since he will prolly use the paypal info you give him to try and hack your account.

Good Luck,

Dave

First place spam is unwanted ads. A scam is someone trying to get you to send them money or an item paid for with fraudulent money orders or checks or by a method where they can stop payment. Scammers also include people who try to gain personal info on you so that they hack into your accounts and steal money from them. What you got was a scam.

Dave is right about the military side of it. In the Army Commandant is the title of someone in charge of a school such as the Commandant of West Point or of the Armor or Infantry schools. That allows someone to tell the difference from the base/post commander from the commander of the school. Also medics are enlisted and would be PVt, PFC, or SPC for lower enlisted and SGT, SSG and so on for NCO's. PA's and doctors are officers. LT, CPT.....ECT. So the guy claiming to be a commandant in an aviation company isn't right. Another point is that at company level they have medics and at battalion level they have PA's and only at regimental HQ is there a Doc so at company level they would an enlisted person. The Army has no aircraft big enough for doctors plus staff to attend to wounded soldiers on so they have no flight doctors. They do have medics assigned for medivac flights.


It also in the first few lines has the kinda of grammar that a lot of fraud out of areas of Africa that have thousands of scammers.

Rick
 
Whenever someone asks--or TELLS--you to remove your ad [or "add," as this guy does], that immediately raises my suspicions.
 
The sentence structure is suspicious. The urgency of the deal . Mention of paypal, no town -just southwest Va. etc. Sorry but my BS alarm is going off. From what I understand[which is little] even opening an unknown email can cause problems. Like someonbe else said how many people talk like that. It just sounds so much more scammer than military man.Wouldn't a normal buyer just call on the phone.{ its scam not spam]. { he would say I am a soldier not I am a US ARmy reserves.] You get a feel for these weasels after having a computer awhile.So to answer the original question you need to further investigate for your own satisfaction it's not -my money is on scammer.DON'T Tell him any paypal info.Also he wants more pics but is still eager to pay up. At least five points of BS here.
 
pure 100% scam....

by the way...
READ CRAIGS LIST WARNINGS!!!!

oNLY deal face to face.

only deal face to face.

offers to ship are 100% fraudulent.

offers to ship are 100% fraudulent.
 
(quoted from post at 07:34:57 08/11/11)

offers to ship are 100% fraudulent.

offers to ship are 100% fraudulent.

the world DOES extend past your driveway........... I have stuff shipped all the time or I wouldn't get it.
Not everyone is a crook.
 
Old Roy,
It's spam. Just to give you an idea of the extent of this evil, our company got hit with a spam attack recently. Basically, a user here had a password of "password" and a outside SPAM program found it and used our servers to relay millions of SPAM email from a recent Friday at 7:22 AM (while I was off) until the following Monday when I came in and found the problem and shut them down.

It then took over a week of continuous cleaning our "outbound" email queues that were clogged. The messages were one of six or seven content-wise, senders (obviously not the real ones) were Park Kwang of Hong Kong, Dr. Ties Tiesen, Agent Ferdinand Melvin of the FBI Anti-Fraud Division, Peter Watara. Each email that was sent through our system had up to a hundred intended recipients, probably ALL real email addresses hacked from servers around the world. School districts in Georgia, California were especially over-represented as recipients of these spam emails. The relayed SPAM targeted over 40,000 domain names (yahoo.com,aol.com, gmail.com, comcast.net, etc. along with thousands of legitimate companies). Each domain name has an outbound queue on our system and there were thousands of these messages in each queue. I think the yahoo.com queue had upwards of 50,000 msgs in it at one point (even as we were running scripts 24 hrs a day to clean them up). Do the math. It was a huge problem for us.

Legitimate email could not be sent from our severs, the company network slowed to a crawl and I worked quite a few late nights. Most were the the usual Nigerian oil scam msgs, a barrister for someone who died in the UK offering to share his wealth and the ones from "Park Kwang" just wanted you to "think well of South Korea".

Still today, our servers get an attempt at a "break-in" from IP addresses in Russia, Hong Kong, China, etc. about once every 5 minutes, on average. Sometimes we'll get a burst of 100 attempts in a minute or so.

These are just programs sent out like spiders in the night to work their evil magic. Kind of reminds of the spider-like robots in the Matrix trying to break into the ship. It's hard to believe that they can actually profit from these emails (have you ever bought a "Rolex watch" from an email?) but they somehow make money. A while back, New Zealand prosecuted a couple of their citizens for SPAM trafficing even though they were using servers in the Netherlands as their base. They were paying $10,000 PER MONTH for use of EACH server and they were using a number of them. That's REAL money and they got REAL prison time. But somehow it must have been very profitable for them.

This is just a word of caution that this SPAM menace is getting worse and they're getting craftier. The only way to stop them is to make it too costly to do it. IMO, the best way is to charge some very, very small amount to send an email, say one tenth of a cent ($ .001), Sending 10,000 emails would cost a company $10. But a SPAMMER sends them by the millions EACH DAY, so it would add up real quick for them. But, I'm sure the technical aspects of policing the internet and doing the financial accounting would bog down the email traffic from what we expect today so just do your best to NOT become a victim of one of their schemes.
 
Says it right on the can, "SPAM". Blue can, big yellow letters, "SPAM". Doesn't taste very good though. Some people love it, but not me. I don't care if you use barbeque sauce, mayonaise, mustard, pickles, tomatoes. Don't matter. Can't hide the taste of SPAM. Don't worry. Once you bite into it, won't take long at all to determine that its SPAM. No hiding the taste or smell of that stuff. My dogs love it. Makes them drink a lot of water afterwards.

Good luck.

Mark
 

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