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Hooked up my 4 furrow plow yesterday and went in the field to play. Took awhile to get the adjustments mostly right (at least to me), but one of the shares is not flipping over the sod; it keeps jamming up and causing a mess.

Looking forward from the rear of the tractor, from the left, shares 1, 2 are fine, 3 isn't working, and 4 is fine.

The discs (as far as I can tell) are all cutting the soil ahead of the share. Any idea what would cause this? I am going to call on a neighbour to have a look, but figured it might be something more obvious that I'm missing.
 
tell us more..and a picture helps..it could be you have a bent beam or somthing ,but if the rest of it is working its probably just not scouring,or shedding the dirt off.let me ask you when you pick up plow is there a layer of dirt stuck to moldboard?if so do this.find you a stiff paint scraper and put it in your pocket.plow about 25-30 ft raise plow and scrape dirt off,plow another 25-30 ft and do it again.repeat until it will shed dirt.the more often you clean it the faster it will start scouring.once your done plowing either coat bottoms with grease,or use a primer paint and paint them to keep them from rusting again.primer paint will wear right of when you need it again.
 
by the shares being polished i assume you mean the whole bottom?share is the bottom piece that cuts the soil,shin is the front leading edge,and moldboard is the part that actually turns ground.bottom is one assy.moldboard must be clean to scour well.if just one bottom is not working like you say i would suspect share is worn,or beam is bent.test this by setting plow down on level ground.all points should touch equally.if not plow beam could be sprung or share is worn.another thing to check,see if other moldboards have extensions on them.this will be a piece bolted on trailing edge of moldboard 2-3 " wide and about 4-6 " long.they help to turn ground if its heavy or something or if you are moving too slow.if the others have this and that one doesnt that could be your problem.
 

Hope we can help you...

Pictures would be a big help..and MORE info, too...!!
What make of tractor and plow..??
Is the ground dry or wet..?

Could it be that the 2nd furrow from the front is turning the wheel-track from the last round you made and that ground is dug up or already shattered..by the tire slipping some..??
That may be the case, or you may need to check (with the plow raised) that all the share points are even and no one is obviously tipped down..
That could indicate a partially sheered sheer-bolt, or a loose plow bottom..
Many times, adjusting the Coulter to the Left (from the rear) id what is needed, to have the Cover-Board cut the same amount (and, they should be turning some amount, to cover any trash)..
If you do not have Jointers or Cover-Boards, you are limited as to the type of "Good Job" you can do, especially in grass or weedy ground..

Hope this helps you..!

Ron.
 

In sod, you may not have the coulters set deep enough..??
From what you said, it does sound like it could be that plow bottom is running in the tire-track from the last round..
Proper position for the Coulters is to have the CENTER of the coulter about 2" in front of the tip of the share and when lifted by hand, should be not more than 3" above that share point..
The coulter and the share work together, like a "Rolling Shear" or scissor, cutting the sod and soil..

Ron.
 
I had that problem once with a six bottom. Turned out one of the shares had picked up some sort of ring that must have fallen of some antique 50 years ago. The ring on the share wouldn't allow it to penetrate the ground. Funny thing was that ring is only 2 inches in diameter. I couldn't do that again if I tried.
 
I hope these pictures help. To me the plow looks like its setup ok.

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#3 isn't polished good yet. It still has rust on it, plus, it looks from the photo that the coulter on #3 is smaller in diameter (worn?) compared to the other ones. Measure it, if it is smaller, then loosen the bracket and drop it down lower. A really tight plow has the coulter just barely ahead of the shin.

Is the frog on 3 twisted? Having a hard time judging by the photo, but it is also a possibility.
 
Yup. Look at all the dirt stuck to #3. It's not "scoured" well yet. A garden hoe works well to scrape off the dirt until the moldboard gets shined up.

The point on #3 looks different from the others, too.

It also looks like #3 is slightly out of line, twisted, compared to the other three. You should sight down various surfaces and see what it looks like in person.

If the plow is sprung, it's junk.
 
if i read his first post right it would be no2 giving problems.the bottoms are numbered from front of plow back 1,2,3,4.third one from left looking forward would be no 2.
 
in the pictures ,and if i figure correctly that its no 2 thats giving you problems(third from left looking forward?) it sure appears to me the share has no suction,its worn.on one and three notice how the point seems to be curved on bottom?i dont see that on two.,at least looking at the pictures.if so and that is really straight instead of curved thats quite likely your problem.also check the FROG thats the part holding the bottom parts together thats bolted to the beam.check and see if there are spacers washers or things on the others that are missing there.Measure from point to point on the working beams.in two or three places and see if your beam is twisted.if so you MIGHT be able to turn bottom back by adding spacers on the frog to line it up.i would check that point first though myself.if i am wrong and its the second from back which would be no 3 bottom,problem is likely its just not scouring good yet.two dont look too pretty in that regard in some pictures.
 
another question i would ask,how deep are you plowing?about half the width of the bottom is normal.if your sinking it in the ground up to the beams(like my dad did ) your going to have problems.your ground needs to be right for plowing also.if you pick up a handfull of dirt ,squeeze it and it sticks in a ball it likely too wet,if it immediatly falls apart or wont hold together at all its likely dry.if it holds a shape,then slowly crumbles get after it and dont stop until its done! if one beam is bent all is not lost,very often you can remove the bent beam and move the others over,making a 3 bottom plow out of a four bottom.just looking at that plow in the pictures,you could possibly do that to this one.you would have to check hole spacings and things to be sure.
 
i thought that was the one.looks to me like the share is worn out.look at on 1 and 3 how the point sort of turns down. 2 doesnt,in fact it almost looks like it is tilted up some to me and has lost its suction.You might( i dont know for sure ) be able to turn that point down some with the bolts on beam.that would theoretically at least,raise back of moldboard up and probably help it turn better.look at coulter also,they should be running slightly to the left of point of plow and as long as hub is not riding the ground you could drop them some more if needed.depending on your ground it may even plow better without them.ive never used one myself on my land.
 
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