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rrlund

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What model was the old big standard style Allis Chalmers that was painted green before they went to orange? Was that a U?
I spotted one of those old things yesterday sitting in the woods. Don't know if it could be bought or not. There's a place near Grayling Michigan called Wellington Farm that's supposed to be a working farm set in 1932. Anyway,they have one big shed there filled with threshers,old tractors and parts,that kind of thing,but this Allis sat out in the woods behind the sawmill. One rear tire was gone but the rim was there,no hood,but otherwise looked complete.
Sure was a shame they didn't haul it inside with the rest,even if they pushed it back it the corner. At least it would have stopped the aging process.
Here's a link to their website.
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Does it look like this?This one was spotted at Sheridan,Wyoming.
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Yes,but it was on rubber.
What was the story on the U anyway? Didn't they build some for another company called Universal or something,then bought them out? Then called them a Model U for Universal? Seems like I remember some story like that.
 
The U was built by Allis Chalmers, initially for United? Tractors and when that folded they built it for themselves. The originals had a side-valve engine which was later replaced by am overhead valve engine.
 
If I am not mistaken the U shared the same engine with the M crawler. Recent reading on these forums reports that the wheel version came with two different engines. The one I am thinking of was made by AC and the other may have been Continental.

The old Model M (which replaced the horse in this hill country) was a high performance tractor for 1933. It had a big ol 300 cu in slow speed engine. It had an active governor and would rear up and charge into the pull. Ran circles around the Cats of the day.
 
don't know anything bout the AC, but wanted to let you know I'm heading up to Japer, Woodhull, and Homell NY. this comeing Friday the 14 th Give Me a yell down on tales, this is going to bee a overnight trip.
 
United was the name, it was basically the same as a U Allis, only with United cast into the radiator. I doubt the company lasted for more than a few years. U's were made into a lot of different industrial applications, as well as farm tractors.
 
I have a calendar that has a picture of an Allis Chalmers A for October. It states that the A had a 461 cubic inch 4 cylinder engine and was rated at 51 hp belt and 40 hp drawbar.
 
U's were always orange. They were the first AC tractors to be orange. The older green ones are called model E's. Most of the E's were 20-35 horsepower rating. There is also a smaller green one called a model L. The model L's are quite scarce. United Equipment Co. was a group of independant manufacturers who built attachments for Fordson tractors. Mostly attachments for industrial uses. After the Fordson was removed from production in 1928, The United group needed another tractor. They went to AC to build a replacement for the Fordson. It was the United/AC tractor. United went broke by 1930. AC continued to build what they then called the model U. You can see a resemblance to the Fordson in the early U tractors.
 
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