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no-till planting with a two cylinder deere

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old fashioned farmer

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Howdy,

We will be getting a new kinze 6/11 3500 planter this coming spring and I was wondering about pulling power for it. I have access to a decent sized tractor but I was wondering if anyone has tried pulling a planter this size with an old two cylinder tractor. Right now I have an R, 720 diesel, and may get an 830 at an upcoming auction. I can't seem to find any good data on the horsepower one of these needs. My ground is mostly gently rolling. Thanks and God bless.

--old fashioned farmer
 
I pull a 12/23 3650 with a Case 2294 (130 horse). Worked just fine in good conditions. Going down the road you know something is back there.

When things got wet I was in a bit of trouble. Got stuck first day of corn and buried the planter to the frame last day of corn. Put the duals on for beans and by being cautious got along pretty well.

Your 6/11 should be a bunch more nimble than my 12/23. That said I would forget about the R. Your 720 should handle it well though.

JM2CW

jt
 
Okay, Im workin on the dark here not knowing the planters size or specs or draft or HP requirements BUTTTTTTTTTTTT if a JD Diesel 720 or an 830 wont pull it (they sure can walk a 4 x plow) IT MUST BE AN AWFUL BIG HARD TO PULL UNIT. I doubt theres a problem but no warranty absent the planters specs.

John T
 
Your new planter will require around 2200lbs of hydraulic pressure to make everything work correctly. Your 2-cylinders don't have that much pressure.
 
I currently pull a Black Machine 12/13 with a 85 hp FWA tractor. It plants 12 rows of 30 inch corn and 13 rows of 15 inch beans while carrying 300 gallons of liquid starter fertilizer.

I plant the corn with the strip-till method where the planter is running in worked strips and I can run 6.5 MPH but hold it to 5 for accuracy reasons.

I plant beans no-till and wish I could run 6.5 but it pulls too hard in the unworked ground.

I think the 720 will do it but there will be times when you want more tractor, just like I do.

Oh, you may want to check the hydraulic requirements to see if you are going to have to wait a long time for the planter to raise before turning.
 
Thanks for the info fellas,

I've got access to a bigger tractor but thought that it might be neat to do some planting with the old two cylinders. Thanks again!

--old fashioned farmer
 
I think your 720 would pull it just fine, but I think your trouble lies in if its the folding style 6/11 like the 12,16,and24 row kinze planters or if its like an old 7000 deere 6 row. If its a folding style your downfall will be the electronics for your planter control box and your monitor and wheather or not your tractor will have hydraulic power to lift it and fold it. I have a 16/32 kinze and it takes a good bit of hydraulic pressure to lift and swing that big thing in to transport position. I realize a 6 is smaller but still takes a lot to get it up in the air and swung over to transport position.
 
My uncle has 13 super M's and he pulls a 6 row 7000 jd with liquid fertilizer, third gear two thirds cracked he tells me. But your problem could be electronics and hydrolics. My allis planter calls for negative ground. There is only one way to find out though, have fun. Tom
 
I have used a planter just like the one you are waiting for. The biggest problem I can see you having, is too small of a draw-bar. This planter has lots of toung weight. I used a 4240 and it worked excellent,but this planter will push in steep ground and also turn hard. My 4455 handles it in rough steep ground alot better. I also put a piece of 1/4 inch plastic between planter clevis and drawber to help it turn.
 
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