Should a used tractor have a warranty

A buddy of mine sells tractors and he clearly states that there is no warranty and even makes the seller sighn a no warranty paper. He lets them try them out all they want before buying.. A few times he has people call him back on some things and all he can say is sorry. What do you guys think about that? I think if they want a warranty go buy a new one!! In my book all used equipment is as is.

Sellers today have to put up with mean nasty people in a bad mood wanting something for nothing and expect free everything including warranty on 50 year old tractors.That's the way a lot are raised,everything is someone else's fault.I had a guy complain about a fan belt two years after he bought a tractor.My local JD dealer sold a used allis chalmers D17 25 years ago and is being sued over an accident the currnet owner had with it.

Both me and my dad sold used tractors and implements.We told buyers to check it as much as they wanted but when it left it was their item.If they had a problem we would try to help them by selling them parts at our cost or fixing it for a reasonable fee.When you buy a tractor from a dealer you pay lots more and most times they have a 50/50 warenty which means that you pay for half the repair.You pay half their full labor and parts price so with the mark ups you paid their full cost(they pay their mechanic 1/3 of what they charge and mark up parts 50-100%) If you want a warrenty you are going to have to be willing to pay for it.

That is surely a valid point. However, it is off set by the huckster sellers that lie through their teeth about known issues and problems just to make a buck.
A classic case is at some auctions. They drag a tractor through and say something like, "it runs out real good with no smoke, just needs a battery." If you buy it, chances are the battery is the least of the things that it actually needs. They do not crank it because it either does not run, belches smoke, or other issues.
That makes some people want to ask for some reasonable warranty, even though a warranty is not really reasonable.
But then again, to tell bold faced lies and justify it by saying it is to make a buck is not reasonable either.

Hi Mtractor: All agreements should be understood by both buyer and seller wheather there is or is Not a warrenty of any kind.. Most used tractors are "as is" but it does not have to be as-is.. Again, it should be what ever the buyer and seller agree on. Don't need laws and lawyers. Need adults who are in agreement right from the start. I sold my last residential property several years ago without any warrenty in any way. The buyer agreeded in writing and at the closing paid me well over $200k,which was market value. Zero warrenty.. ag

You never know how the new owner is going to treat it either like pulling a big plow not fit for that tractor then complain just because they did not no any better

No! Buyer beware and for good reason, on both sides of the aisle.

Mark

I offer a tail light warranty. It's good til I can see your tail lights going out the driveway.
That said,only used tractor I ever got with a warranty was a White 2-135 from an Agco dealer. He was confident enough about the transmission and rearend in those that he said he would guarantee that,but not the engine.

That question does open a can of worms with some people. Best policy is as is. Keep it simple, represent it for what is, running, field ready, completely disassembled/completely rebuilt or what have you, price accordingly, buyer beware.

No, I don't like a dishonest, purposely misleading seller. A buyer should know what he/she is looking at, or have someone with them who does to assess what they are looking at. People who don't can easily get taken, and it may not be any fault of theirs except agreeing on a sale that they should not have because they don't know the model, have no ability to determine that the tractor is sound, field ready, or has specific problems that the price should reflect. I can see this with someone just getting some land and so on, that has never been around these things, still common sense, find a mechanic to help you or research or what, you buy like a fool, it may not turn out well. We were a dealer at one time, used were checked out, taken care of, customer relations were good, work with them, treat them right, but don't take em to the cleaners, and vice versa, don't try to take us to the cleaners or as is, will be the last thing you hear.

2 things I bought one was ready to for the scrap yard, my ole 850 ford, mostly wore out, 'cept the motor, needed a bunch of repairs, price was fair, I fixed most of it and the tractor has done more work than I ever expected, owes me nothing. The previous owner appeared to be in a hurry as soon as he dropped it off, real cold out, trouble starting it due to that, I never and would never say a word, as is is AS IS LOL ! Yes, I should have waited for a better one, by the same token, I bought it and still made it work, add a little luck in there, as I should have ran away screaming !

My D7 Cat, 15 hours in, the clutch failed, mostly due to age, it sat unused/new for 30 years. Cripes the PCU brake would not even hold the blade up, some other odds and ends, bought sight unseen, shipped and thats that. Seller may or may not have known. It was bought due to the low hours and the condition of the tracks etc.
Ironically, not long a ago, the seller sent me an email, was cool to hear from him, I replied with what happened and so on, I think the guy took it personally, never heard back from him. The seller, the trucker and so on were honest people, did me no real wrong by any means, I'll do the same as my ford 850, and have some fun doing it! I can see someone else making something of it, but as is is "AS IS". Granted, if it had cracked housings, shabby weld repairs etc and was totally misrepresented by a dishonest person, you're still out, however that is a different situation, again buyer beware, sight unseen, not a smart thing to do ever.

We sold a tandem tractor, GMC astro 8V71/ 435 Detroit "as is" years back, was not long after the motor went, how can you predict these things or what the next user does, just one of those things you deal with when buying used equipment.

if you ever gone to an auction... every cotton picking motor there has a dead battery. however..

they do start everyone or sell it as not running at the time. AND

AND..

the guy you bought the tractor from.... probably bought it with no warranttee either..

The auctioneer always says.. it ran good last time it ran good.

so.. buyer beware.. you buy it and its your problem..

you can make money and not have to share it with the seller, so why would you expect it to be backwards...

And a verbal contract is NOT worth the paper its written on.

When I buy something used. I don't expect a warranty. It should be as is. If it doesn't work and I still buy it. Any problems that come up are my problems. Not the sellers.

I never have bought a new tractor and only bought 1 used lemon. I figure if I can't decide whether or not the seller is lying or not it's my fault. I test drive every one I buy and so far have had good luck but I think you make your own luck.

All the tractors that i sold and had been thru the shop were sold with a 90 day warranty , If i installed a new clutch and T/A in it they got the three year warranty on that . Maybe i was lucky but out of all the tractors i sold i never had one come back in twenty years.

An auctioneer at the Omaha Auto Auction used to auction used cars with a "California 3/30 Warranty".

Three feet or 30 seconds.

Been in Retail ag (Tractor dealer) for better part of 28 years. Used equipment is just that. If I know of anything I try and tell the purchaser but the warranty is 50/50 if it breaks in two peices that is what you have. I always make it very clear NO WARRANTY and if you can,t accept that go on down the road. Usually will have 130 or so used trad in tractors in a year. If we see rith of that somethin is not sound we just take it to auction but what we retail don,t have many problems by having a good understainding up front.

A used tractor should not have any warranty on it. It should be agreed upon up front by both parties. Any time I go to look at a used vehicle of any kind I try to take someone who is objective with me to look at it. They often see the things that I overlook because I want it so bad. One time I went with my cousin to look at a Dodge Challenger he wanted. The seller said it ran great didn't use any oil and had never been wrecked. My cousin was really excited and wanted to get it. I looked at the front fender right at the door and there was a crack in the bondo that was 3/4" thick. So much for not being wrecked. Showed my cousin and he passed on the car because he had been lied to. It may have been a perfectly good car otherwise but the rest could have all been lies also.


Steven

It depends on the seller and the price, the same like used cars. If you buy a 2 year old tractor for $100,000 it wouldn't be asking too much to have some kind of warranty on major components. You buy a 30 year old tractor with 10,00 hours for $2000, you take your chances.

If the seller wants to offer a warranty it's his decision. If a buyer wants a warranty he should buy a tractor from a place that offers a warranty, but he needs to understand the warranty will cost him more. Americans are about the worse at negotiations and usually can't understand the whole process, that the seller want to get as much money as he can and the buyer wants to get it as cheap as possible AND if buying from a business the business needs to make money OR it won't survive. A faction of our population is of the belief that if anyone makes a dime off of them they have been ripped off, yet any one not willing to pay them $30.00 an hour to pick their nose is also ripping them off or the ever popular "LOWBALL" which is another way of saying I'm better than you and my time is worth more than yours and don't waste my time if you don't want to buy my worn out piece of junk for more than a new one costs, after all I have touched it so it is worth much more than you can ever understand. I base this from time I spent in both Greece and Saudi Arabia, the average Greek has a better idea of how business works that the average American.

I guess if I was a buyer from your friend I would appreciate his stance and buy accordingly knowing I would get no support after the sale. Have to commend him for being up front about it. People who buy with such a agreement and then after the sale go back and expect repairs will be difficult customers for all sellers.

All that being said the last big tractor I bought (Case 2294). Was a little wary of the transmission and had the fluid checked before buying. Test came back ok so I went ahead. Ran it 30 hours that fall and the tranny took a dump Repair was $4000. Without any agreement or stated warranty the dealer stood half the bill.

What I am getting at here is if I got a bummer I might buy from your friend again since he was upfront with his stance on warranty.

Do I have a degree of loyalty to the dealer I bought my 2294 from. In a heartbeat!!. Part of this is I have had a relationship with this guy for years ahead of the 2294 purchase but this sealed the deal. I do shop elsewhere and my last major purchase was from another dealer but I did give this person a full on chance to make that sale he just didn't have the planter I wanted.

jm2cw

jt

Yep. The guy who puts on the biggest two consignment sales with in easy drive'n distance from me every year says at the start of every consignment sale "every thing here is sold as is where is. If it hasn't been worn out twice it wouldn't be here so bid as such."

Dave

If Im looking at a machine and Im interested,and the owner wants to sell. He had better figure on either a 90day, or 50/50 warranty for an agreed time frame. If not he can keep it. You cant trust sellers, alot will lie big time to sell,sell,sell, and that includes most dealers that sell used equipement.IMO. Ive sold used equipement and I have offered a warranty to the buyer as stated above, in writeing, signed,dated by both along with a witness signitaure. I feel this way everyone is happy and I get alittle more $$$$$ for the machine.

Yes!!! IF and only if the seller says it has,it should have a iron clad guaranteed warranty!BUT,as a guy who has sold a lot of used stuff over the years,DO NOT EVER,warranty anything to anyone except if you know them very well.99.9 % of warranty work on any equipment is caused directly ,100%, by the operator. wear is wear,and if the fellow buying doesnt know if a piece of equipment is worn,he doesnt REALLY know enough about it to guarantee he wont simply take it home and tear it up. Warranty goes both ways,it can work for the seller,and the buyer.

What I don't understand is, if you signed a piece of paper, and had "AS-IS" repeatedly drummed into your brain, how can you think you have a leg to stand on?

Take your d*mn lumps like a man, and learn something for next time around.

I used to give a 50/50 warranty on the engine and power train for 90 days or 100 hours. The work had to be done by me or some one I agreed to.

I got abused so often by buyers that I sell everything AS-IS now.

I had guys tear out the clutch on a tractor just so they could get me to stand half of a new one. Had one guy on a IH 1486 TA tear out a brand new TA in forty hours. He would slow shift it as he did not want to "jerk" the transmission.

My lawyer said that if you offer any warranty then it is just about impossible to get around paying for the repairs even if they are caused by abuse.