Battery Life?OT

dej(Jed)

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The battery in my 2004 GMC Serra is now 8 years old. actually it is the original one that came with it new. Isn't that unusual?
 
Wiper blades on new cars / trucks always seem to last 3 or 4 times replacements as well, seems like different specs ? or is it that everything is new alternator, belts pulleys, brand new glass no pits etc...
 
Not that unusual. I've had several last 8-10 year's. What i find unusual is that several were in vehicles, trucks, that were used only occasionally, maybe set 2 to 3 months without being used.
 
The wifes Honda 300 4trax has the original battery that still cranks well. She bought it in April of 99. Mine lasted until this past January. They are kept in a heated garage though.
Joe
 
Not anymore.

I have usually gotten around 10 years of life from new vehicle batteries since the mid/late 1980s.

Dean
 
The specs for OEM components are, indeed, nearly always different from specs for similar parts made for the aftermarket by the same suppliers. One (not only) reason is the length of the new vehicle warranties.

Dean
 
Like the others have stated not all that unusual. I don't keep a manitainer on my trolling motor batts over winter, just a full charge the last time I use em before winter, leave em in the boat. The last set I had lasted 6 years.

Rick
 
I have two of Walmart's best batteries in use and one is 10 years old and the other is getting near 12. I had a third battery that was 10, but I traded it on a new Walmart battery since I didn't want to get caught out with a dead battery. Batteries will last longer if used regularly. One is on my garden tractor in an unheated mini-barn. Hal
 
My 2001 GMC Sierra still has the original Delco in it. Over the years I have had excellent luck with Delcos however when I have to replace one I usually take the cheaper way out. Have been very disapointed with the TSC 6 volts for longevity and the last one I bought was a different brand. I think I read that Exide makes most of them. I am a believer in the float chargers and have been bugging Harbor Frieght to offer them for 6 volt for my tractors but have not seen them yet. Battery tender offers them but a lot more costly. I think I read on one of these forums that the prices for the TSCs batteries vary widely depending on where you live in the country. You have to watch them.
 
Agreed.

Replacement 6V bateries do not appear to be made to the same standards as are 12V versions and those sold by TSC seem to be much inferior to most.

Even with proper maintenance, I usually must replace 6V batteries before 5 years, TSC batteries, which I no longer buy, usually within two or three.

Dean
 
When I worked at the GM dealer we actually saw many go that long or more on the original battery.
In laws Ford lasted a long time too. Replacements not so long.
 
Batteries are lasting longer because the starters are getting better & don"t draw as much amps, especially the permanent magnet ones.
 
The two Walmart batteries (made by Johnson Controls) in my 86 Chevy diesel are 8 years old and still working fine. My NAPA (Exide) battery in my Deere crawler is 9 years old. So, yeah, it happens.

I've had some others go bad in 4 years.
 
Quite often the original battery lasts longer because everything else on the vehicle is still working like new. You have a good starter, an engine that turns over easy and starts quickly, an alternator that is still maintaining the battery correctly and the battery cables are still corrosion-free. Most OE batteries are of decent quality too.
 
My 1979 IH 1086 is on it's 3rd set of batteries since new. First set lasted 16 years. When I went to the dealer to get replacements just like the orginals I was told they no longer make that battery. Said they were to expensive to build. They were to high to buy. I said if they last another 16 years they would be worth it.

I got 10 years out of Interstate replacements and and am on the 7th year on another set.

I don't know why but that tractor is easy on batteries.

I have gone through more altnators than sets of batteries. I bet it has had 5 or 6 of them.

Gary
 
The 86 series came with the Delco maintenance free sealed batteries. If you got that tractor fresh off the truck or short time in the lot those batteries lasted forever. If they stood around on the lot for a few hot summer months they were done in a short time. It actually soured a lot of guys on maintenance free batteries through no fault of the batteries, just no one making sure the batteries stayed fully charged in storage. IH sent out a ton of bulletins on how to charge and maintain those batteries, and they don't do things that way if they are not having complaints. I used to run around the lot checking new machines with a volt meter and putting on a slow charger on some if they were down. The digital radio had to be disconnected also or it ran them down in just a few weeks. Once IH figured this out they pulled the one fuse for that reason.
 
A well taken care of battery can last that long. Is it unusual? Yes, most people don't know how to take care of them is the problem. Unfortunately the sealed batteries you can't check the fluid level in them. Those batteries that can be checked for fluid level should be checked every 2-3,000 miles or every three months for a vehicle or piece of equipment that is used every day.
 
It all goes by the purity of the lead. Then there is a comprimise so the lead plates are not too soft [which is more pure]. After that the casing and rest are pretty much the same. I will say I won't use the Interstate batteries but have great service from the Delco batteries. Last battery I was stuck and had no choice but a Bosch. My ac compressor seized but I tried to crank the engine with the belt not allowing it to freely spin and had to remove the belt and limp to a Pep Boys who carried Bosch but two local auto parts I use carry Delco and they have given good service. Time will tell on the Bosch. Keeping the top of the battery clean is critical as my old auto electric teacher put a voltmeter in the crud and got reading of leakage. I have recently read baking soda is no longer recommended in case any seeping in now that the caps are no longer raised up off the batt. So I just wipe it no baking soda.
 
As far as I know, Delco hasn't made batteries in many years. They were getting batteries from Delphi - but that got sold out to Johnson Controls- who also makes Interstate and many Walmart batteries.

Today, Delco is basically a rebranding company -buying other makers products and reboxing them.
 
A longer life battery just has more room at the bottom for sediment to settle before it reaches the bottom of the plates and shorts them out. To gain this room at the bottom they may put in shorter plates or make the outside case a little taller.
 
That means any satisfaction I got from going out and getting a Delco was pretty much psychlogical being that they are all the same anyway.
 
I have solved the 12 volt battery problem by using a desulphating charger. My TSC 6 volters didn't seem to last any longer than the riding mower batteries till I started charging them regularly in the winter and using the Harbor Freight $5 float charger. I wish someone made a 6 volt desulphating charger, and a 6 volt float charger.
Batteries got to coming back to life around here and I went outside to the battery junk pile and saved two out of three of them. ohfred
 
I had a Exide battery that failed with a frozen cell at 8.5 years.Hydrometer showed a problem long before it failed.Lawn mower batteries fail because they sit idle for 6 months with out a charge.My bandsaw mill battery is 4 years old.I use a hydrometer in winter and charge if needed.
 
Lead-acid batteries will last almost forever if they are kept fully charged. Park your pickup for a month and you'll be buying a new battery.
 
Battery life is better with the PM starters as they force power into the battery while cranking. Extended battery life occurs impart to fuel injection and short cranking times. No longer does somebody crank the battery dead when flooded or not choked enough.
 
Thats not how it was in the factory I toured some years back. The plates were lead and as pure as possible but had to be some alloy to stiffen up the soft lead. It was a compnay called Power Battery that made truck batteries and computer back up systems . The property is now a superfund sight due to lead tainted soil. They did make a good battery.
 
What shortens battery life is . Under charging. Over charging. Temperatures above 77F. Frequent and/or deep cycling. Vibration is a killer. Side post batteries suffer less physical damage as top post batteries Top posts are ruined using just one wrench to tighten or loosen the clamp. Prying a stuck clamp off with a screw driver has also ruined many internal cell connectors in top post batteries.
 
You are right about keeping them charged . Eight years ago I started useing battery maintains on all tractor and garden tractors. Those one year garden tractor batterys will last 6 and7 years if keep them fully charged. One of the biggest reasons battery fails is a lot of them set all winter not charged and the cold does damage to them.
Also to much dirt and crud on top of a battery can short a battery out.
 
The OEM delco in my 2007 went bad about 6 months ago. The OEM delco in my 2005 Buick is still good...go figure. That's the longest I've had a battery last.
 
Ive got a battery that missed the last haul to the scrap yard.I check it tomorrow.Ive opened up batteries and never saw a solid plate.
 
I've got a motorcraft battery that came in a 93 Ford Ranger, the owner of the ranger stopped at the shop where I worked one morning in 1995. He was towing a small camper trailer and had run the battery down overnight and had to be jump started that morning.

He was set on having a new battery so the shop owner installed one and set the old one out with the other old batteries, I told him I wanted it and he said take it.

I used it in an old Dodge camper van for quite a few years, scrapped the van when rust killed it, put the battery in my 85 Jeep CJ that I plow snow with.

It's still there and has never once failed to start either vehicle.
 

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