I NEED HELP ON BUYING A SMALL TRACTOR (pic's)

daynee · Aug 21, 2012

#1 MH Pony PTO Ext Hyd
#2 AC B PTO Pulley w/ Belly Mt Potato Hiller
#3 Int A PTO Pulley Power Lift S# 288364
#4 Case VA PTO, Pulley Saw Mantal

I'v been wanting to buy one of tractors listed above and was wourniding a few things?
First thing I would like to ask is what is the fuel effincety of each tractor? What dose each tractor sell for! What is the top speed of each one and which is the best for pulling stuff? Any other help would be great!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the help

Loosehandle · Aug 21, 2012

I would go with the ih then the ac.

rustred · Aug 21, 2012

its like shut your eyes and pick one. their all small, they all probably burn 1/2 gal/ hr.they all are close in m.p.h. and neither one can pull anything more than an empty wagon. and you must have the prices. my choice would be the allis.

rustred · Aug 21, 2012

its like shut your eyes and pick one. their all small, they all probably burn 1/2 gal/ hr.they all are close in m.p.h. and neither one can pull anything more than an empty wagon. and you must have the prices. my choice would be the allis.

ShadetreeRet · Aug 21, 2012

Just from my personal experience, the MH Pony probably develops the least power. Don't know much about attachments. The AC B should be easy on gas, but they are a PITA to mount cultivators, etc. But are good little tractors. The Case VA was a good tractor. We had one when I was growing up. If I remember correctly, it wasn't too hard on gas,and it would probably pull the most of the lot and have the fastest ground speed. One problem, they had a weak lift system. Dad bought a Ford scoop and if you filled it with dirt, it would pop the seals in the cylinder. The successor, VAC had a stronger lift. However, under normal conditions it should be OK. I'm sure you will get a variety of comments and opinions, this type question usually does. Good luck.

kris Jensen · Aug 21, 2012

I would go for the Farmall A, (but I have an IH bias). Any one of the four would be a good tractor and fuel economy would not be much different. I do believe the farmall would out-pull any of the others
but the case would be close. Parts are readily available for the farmall.
Good luck, blessings on your choice.
Kris

David Inman · Aug 21, 2012

Do a google search for " Nebraska tractor test" fallowed by each of the models in question, and you should be able to find their data on the fuel efficiency, top speed, and drawbar horsepower, which should help answer your question some.

Also around here in Az I would be surprised to see any of them listed for under $1000, especially in the apparent conditions shown.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 22, 2012

If you have an actual need for a tractor to take care of horses or do more than haul some yard leaves to the woods, I'd leave them all and get something ford 8n size or bigger... Those little things'll just aggravate you.....

M Nut · Aug 22, 2012

Having, or had, all 4 of those tractors, I can tell you they are all good little tractors. If it was me, I'd just buy all 4 of them

Seriously, I'd say the best choice for your intent would be the Allis Chalmers B, followed by the Farmall, and then either the Massey or the Case. As far as prices, any one of them should be a couple hundred dollars, give or take, from the $1500 mark, depending on condition of the tires and how well they run.

Anonymous-0 · Aug 22, 2012

And an 8N ford won't aggravate you???

Anonymous-0 · Aug 22, 2012

(quoted from post at 03:11:28 08/22/12) And an 8N ford won't aggravate you???

I don't know.... Was really meaning the size... Those little tractors are all neat tho. Just know how it is to have something with borderline minus strength for the job. Adding 20 hp sure made my life easier....

JRSutton · Aug 22, 2012

the A is actually a Super A.

So when you're comparing the numbers, make sure you're looking at the right ones.

I'm parital to that tractor - perhaps just because I have one.

But as Dave said - if it's your only tractor, you might want to consider something larger.

The thing is, smaller isn't really much cheaper.

With some searching, you can find a C or an H for the same price as you'd pay for the super A.

Fuel economy depends greatly upon what you're doing with it. The smaller ones might burn less gas if all you're doing is driving around.

But once you start looking at gas used vs. work performed - it's a totally different story.

DoubleR · Aug 22, 2012

Get the IH.

greygoat · Aug 22, 2012

Consider parts availibility.

jCarroll · Aug 22, 2012

How old are you?

If you're over 50, buy the one that is easiest to get on and off from.

Ultradog MN · Aug 22, 2012

They are all great tractors - every one of them.
On the other hand, none of them have 3 point hitch. If it was to be my only tractor I'd want one with 3 point.

Richard G. · Aug 22, 2012

The Pony Massey has an N62 Continental engine. Parts are very hard to come by and if found are VERY expensive. The same engine was in the Allis G.
Would not pull a greasy string out.
Richard

daynee · Aug 22, 2012

I am Only 17 and I just need something to pull around my collection around the yard with!

Thanks
MY COLLECTION

buickanddeere · Aug 22, 2012

What are the tasks or work is a tractor expected to perform under your control?
Purchasing a tool to then trying to fit it to the job vs purchasing a tool that is cabable to perform the job. Saves times, money , injury and death.
For the little piddly bit of fuel any of these tractors would burn. Fuel efficiency is the least concern.
As previously stated or alluded to. Your age, ability, desire to chase down or build/re-build obsolete parts? Your shop facilities? The distance to a dealer that gives a care and can obtain parts?
Nobody can afford new but repairing a worn out broken and abused machine that fails and leaves the work undone costs even more.
With the state of the market. There are scads of decent fords, IH, Oliver, Massey etc. With 12V alternator systems, live pto, hydraulic scc"s, a real three point hitch, a real drawbar, live hydraulics and decent brakes. For little $ more than the first tractors that replaced the horse.
Depending on the local shop rates. It"s all to easy to purchased used , make repairs and in 10 years spend more $$$ and less of an asset vs Just purchasing something new with the low interest and factory promotions.

daynee · Aug 22, 2012

I just need something to move the stuff around the yard. Besides doing it by hand.

thanks

Brokenwrench · Aug 22, 2012

Gonna need that Case in the background of the first 2 pics if you plan on dropping that 4 bottom plow in the ground. Otherwise you would have to gang all four tractors together. lol

Seriously, I agree if you are set on one of these, I"d flip a coin between the ac or the farmall, just because they are common and easier to find parts for.

If you have the money in the budget, go alittle bigger/newer and get 3pt and live hyd. If you are trying to stay on the low end price, you can pick up a farmall H or even an M for the same money as those tractors and have alot more useful machine.

As far as fuel consumption, unless you are putting many hrs a year on the tractor, the difference isnt gonna be that much. Just my opinion, and you are looking at buying a tractor so whatever you get will be better than what you have now

BW

flambeauone · Aug 22, 2012

I started out with a Case Vac, it was a tough little tractor. We abused it for years. It was newer than that VA and had live hydraulics and the Eagle claw hitch. Steered awful. Would I want another? Not for anything anymore than sentimental reasons. The Allis and Massey to me are underpowered. The super A was decent but still lacks a 3 point. Since its only to play with I guess thatd be ok but my advice would be to save up some more and find something with live hydraulics, a three point and power steering while your at it. Just my opinion

Brokenwrench · Aug 22, 2012

Daynee,

Let me explain how this works, most on here will agree..

You are 17 with some really neat old equipment. To have that much stuff, it shows you have a genuine interest in agriculture.

You will get a tractor to move stuff around the yard, at first... Then, you will decide to start scratching the stuff around in the dirt. Because you are young and ambitious, you will find more dirt, hence the need for bigger stuff. Now, you need a bigger tractor and more stuff. This is a vicious cycle that perpetuates itself. So, as I see it, you have two choices.

Choice one: Quit now, sell everything.

Choice two: Accept and embrace your fate. Realizing it really doesn't matter what tractor you buy now, cause it may be the first, but wont be the last.

If you pick choice two, welcome aboard. lol

xfarma · Aug 22, 2012

After looking at your collection my choice would be the Farmall SuperA for a couple of reasons, 1st the SA weighes more than the others enableing you to move the bigger stuff easier, 2nd it has live hydraulics and can be set up for lifting things or adding a 3pt hitch that is being made now aftermarket.

jackinok · Aug 22, 2012

if your just pulling,simply buy the one easiest to find parts for where you are at. if your lifting take the one with hydraulics.ive owned them all but the case and for my money they are basically the same. my personal choice would probably be the ac simply because it would be easier to get parts for here ,and it the one i am most familiar with.

Nedd · Aug 22, 2012

Where are you located? If it were close to Iowa and you don't want it, I would be interested in the case.

ss55 · Aug 22, 2012

As David Inman already said, look at the Nebraska Tractor test to get detailed information and specifications on each model.

All four tractors have good reputations, those all look to be in good condition. The AC, IH and Case models were popular. Tires are about half the value of the tractor, it is very expensive to replace them. Sit on the tractors and drive them if you can. Look at the condition, features, comfort and price of each tractor, and one or maybe two will jump out as the best fit for you pretty quickly.

Just like cars, set aside a few hundred dollars for repairs after you buy one.

Good luck.

mowr · Aug 23, 2012

The Case pictured here is in the model V series (powered by Continental, not Case), not the VA series. Built for only a few years, and earlier than the VA"s, so not nearly as many around. Looks really nice!

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