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Anonymous-0
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I always make a lower offer.
Tracy Brown
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Hey, I always want a deal. I don't pick their item apart, I just tell them what it is worth to me, right now. And I carry cash. Most of the time, I am buying to resell so I can not pay 100% of what an item is worth. There are a few web sites I check several times throughout the day (if I get time) and a quick sale is what some are looking for.
If I'm buying from a private seller I will most often offer about 10% less than he is asking unless he under the local area price by at least that much.
If it's a dealer, and seeing as I pay in cash, I offer 20% less. If the dealer tells me the price is firm I'll show him the money and walk away. Kinda funny when they follow you out to the truck making counter offers! Then I tell em I don't deal with liars and seeing as they told me the price was firm and all of a sudden they are willing to take less makes em a liar in my book. Last one was on a 800 series Ford diesel. Sales guy tells me 5500 firm and by the time I walked out and got the Surburban started was saying he'd take 4500 for it. That walk, getting in and starting the engine took less than 2 minutes.
Rick
Anonymous-0
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Most of the time I use his price as a starting point, and try to knock a little off. If his price is way off, I will tell him I think so. I will never do this on the phone, without seeing the item in question. I hate the idiots who try that on my CL ads! If you don't have the gumption, to go see the item, and talk to the man, don't try knocking his price on the phone, or in an Email!
Craig Tenhoff
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Lately, when I have found items I want to buy I have to be the Buyer and Seller. "I ask how much are you asking for the 12' Single gang Harrow disk?" Dun know? Make me a offer. Do you start low? Does he get insulted? The last two times I just said I am not sure and to call me if you come up with a price. Maybe I am taking the wrong approach. What does it take to make a deal?
I must also have a poor poker face. Very little dealing with cash in hand. I have yet to get it for way less than asking.
I must also have a poor poker face. Very little dealing with cash in hand. I have yet to get it for way less than asking.
"Show him the money and walk away"? Wow, I'm seeing way too much ego here. Do you want to make a deal, or just bust somebody's chops? You do your little dance, and let him do his- but if the point is to buy something at your price, so you can make some money reselling, never just cut it off and drive away. If you do, you've just wasted your time going to look, and have shot yourself in the foot to boot.
Lots of guys make great money in the used car business, but not doing it like that. "The deal is the thing"- you sublimate your ego to get it done.
Lots of guys make great money in the used car business, but not doing it like that. "The deal is the thing"- you sublimate your ego to get it done.
Mike- Sorry...I guess it's just me but when I put something up for sale, I ask a fair price. I'm not trying to gouge anyone.
If you put a price on something, why would I try to negotiate a lower price with you? Do you do that at a grocery store, shoe shop, barber, etc.?
Maybe, it's just a different way I look at things.
If you put a price on something, why would I try to negotiate a lower price with you? Do you do that at a grocery store, shoe shop, barber, etc.?
Maybe, it's just a different way I look at things.
Pair-a-dice farm
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If it's a dealer I try every trick I know to get it lower, unless I know that he has priced it low to begin with. I try to do my homework before I buy. If it's an individual I will pay asking price unless I think he's too high. Then I ask if he would consider a lower offer, if he says no I thank him for his time and leave.
I have been negotiating with two kubota dealers on trading in my kubota loader tractor on a new one. I think I'm going to make the final deal tomorrow. I figured I have saved myself about 2 grand by negotiating, thinking about it, and I will get back with you on it procedure I normally follow when buying something big. I like both dealers and know both and like both salesman. I guess they are both use to my normal bull$%#@ I put them through when buying something.
I buy and sell stuff allot on Criags list also. I usually price things a little high and will come down to what I really want for it. I will normally offer a little lower when buying. Sometimes I just ask if their price is their bottom line. I don't try to find fault with what they are selling to get them to come down. I don't like it when it is done to me either. I told a couple of guys last week to have a good day and walked away when they did that. They came back and payed my asking price a little later.
I buy and sell stuff allot on Criags list also. I usually price things a little high and will come down to what I really want for it. I will normally offer a little lower when buying. Sometimes I just ask if their price is their bottom line. I don't try to find fault with what they are selling to get them to come down. I don't like it when it is done to me either. I told a couple of guys last week to have a good day and walked away when they did that. They came back and payed my asking price a little later.
I mentioned it here not long ago - I was going to pay asking price to a couple brothers for a field cultivator as it was a good deal. They almost didn't sell it to me, I took their fin away - they wanted to bttle back & forth a little.
I looked at a drier years ago, he dropped the asking price $1000 (that was 25%...) by the time we walked 1/2 way around it.
Looked at a combine, they gave me a price, then asked what my offer was, didn't even give me a chance to say yes or no to their asking price....
Around here, it's pretty muc always an 'or best offer' situation.
But seriously, I almost didn't get that field cultivator I needed when I said sure to the asking price. I don't think they considered shooting me tho?
--->Paul
I looked at a drier years ago, he dropped the asking price $1000 (that was 25%...) by the time we walked 1/2 way around it.
Looked at a combine, they gave me a price, then asked what my offer was, didn't even give me a chance to say yes or no to their asking price....
Around here, it's pretty muc always an 'or best offer' situation.
But seriously, I almost didn't get that field cultivator I needed when I said sure to the asking price. I don't think they considered shooting me tho?
--->Paul
super99
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We have a couple of neighbors who just have to get the lowest price, will dicker for days on end trying to get the price down. I talked to one of the salesman about them. He said when they walk in the door, the price goes up because they know how they work. They raise the price so they can come down to what they would sell to anyone else for. I usually just ask the price, if I think it's fair, I will buy it, if not I thank them and walk away. They have to make enough to stay in business. Chris
This applies to private sales, as I have found nothing used at a dealer around
here priced anywhere near market value so I don't waste my time or theirs.
I never knock an item I'm looking at, that's insulting and may kill the deal.
On the other hand, I almost always ask if they will take less.
Sometimes I even say something like, "I don't want to low ball, but I am
American and don't want to pay more than I have to!"
That usually lightens the air a little, and gets some discussion going.
Sometimes I'll just ask if they have any room to work on the price.
Sometimes they say no and I pay the price, other times they say no and I walk,
usually they say "What were you thinking?" and I make a reasonable offer.
Not something ridiculously low. After all, if they were way off the mark I
wouldn't be there to begin with.
In any event, no one's going to get shot over a friendly sales conversation.
here priced anywhere near market value so I don't waste my time or theirs.
I never knock an item I'm looking at, that's insulting and may kill the deal.
On the other hand, I almost always ask if they will take less.
Sometimes I even say something like, "I don't want to low ball, but I am
American and don't want to pay more than I have to!"
That usually lightens the air a little, and gets some discussion going.
Sometimes I'll just ask if they have any room to work on the price.
Sometimes they say no and I pay the price, other times they say no and I walk,
usually they say "What were you thinking?" and I make a reasonable offer.
Not something ridiculously low. After all, if they were way off the mark I
wouldn't be there to begin with.
In any event, no one's going to get shot over a friendly sales conversation.
Dean Olson
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Depends on price, quality and location. I will know what new costs.
If it is reasonable to cheaply priced and I want it bad enough I don't haggle.
If the condition is low and price is high I'll make a low offer and come up a little.
Some stuff is so badly misrepresented in the photo's and per the phone conversation that I take one look and leave.
If it is reasonable to cheaply priced and I want it bad enough I don't haggle.
If the condition is low and price is high I'll make a low offer and come up a little.
Some stuff is so badly misrepresented in the photo's and per the phone conversation that I take one look and leave.
Ultradog MN
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I learned at the the feet of a master.
A Vietnamese gal I dated for a bunch of years and bought a bunch of houses with.
She was constitutionally incapable of paying full price. Would haggle so sweetly yet so fiercley for days and weeks to save a Hundred Thou or Hundred bucks.
Sometimes I was so ashamed.
But I learned a lot from her.
Should have stuck it out with her as by now I could have been driving John Deeres or Kubotas instead of these crummy Fords.
First of all don't fall in love with the deal.
There's another house, tractor, baler or cord of wood out there. Bide your time and husband your funds.
After looking a tractor over I always ask the seller if the price is firm. Go from there based upon how he responds.
There's no reason to insult anyone.
Leave your number in case he changes his mind.
Let him watch you write it under the hood, on the battery or on the rim with a carpenter's pencil so he doesn't lose a silly piece of paper.
If he calls you can tell him what you'll pay.
If he doesn't call you have wasted noting but a little time and maybe gas money.
They say buying and selling are both just practicing the art of diplomacy.
And diplomacy as we all know is the art of telling someone to go to he11 in such a fashion that they actually look forward to going.
A Vietnamese gal I dated for a bunch of years and bought a bunch of houses with.
She was constitutionally incapable of paying full price. Would haggle so sweetly yet so fiercley for days and weeks to save a Hundred Thou or Hundred bucks.
Sometimes I was so ashamed.
But I learned a lot from her.
Should have stuck it out with her as by now I could have been driving John Deeres or Kubotas instead of these crummy Fords.
First of all don't fall in love with the deal.
There's another house, tractor, baler or cord of wood out there. Bide your time and husband your funds.
After looking a tractor over I always ask the seller if the price is firm. Go from there based upon how he responds.
There's no reason to insult anyone.
Leave your number in case he changes his mind.
Let him watch you write it under the hood, on the battery or on the rim with a carpenter's pencil so he doesn't lose a silly piece of paper.
If he calls you can tell him what you'll pay.
If he doesn't call you have wasted noting but a little time and maybe gas money.
They say buying and selling are both just practicing the art of diplomacy.
And diplomacy as we all know is the art of telling someone to go to he11 in such a fashion that they actually look forward to going.
larry@stinescorners
Member
crummy Fords? I resent that remark!!! lol
I always haggle a little bit. I picked up a corn head on Friday for our chopper and they were asking $500. Finding out I needed a pulley, they helped me locate one, and then put that on hold while we talked money. I would have paid $500 if I had to, but I asked what their best rpcie was and they knocked off $100 right away. I took it, ordered the pulley from the dealer they found it at through them, and brought the head home.
Now I gotta get some gathering chains for it, as I tried it out tonight after installing the pulley and it broke a chain not far into the field. If nothing else I'll have to put it back together with a connector link, but those chains are pretty loose, and will need to be replaced sooner or later.
Donovan from Wisconsin
Now I gotta get some gathering chains for it, as I tried it out tonight after installing the pulley and it broke a chain not far into the field. If nothing else I'll have to put it back together with a connector link, but those chains are pretty loose, and will need to be replaced sooner or later.
Donovan from Wisconsin
Ultradog MN
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Larry,
I'm sure yours is nice.
It's probably just mine that are crummy.
I'm sure yours is nice.
It's probably just mine that are crummy.
huntingreen2day2
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I always ask for a lower price. I even do it at Lowes, TSC and places like that. I bought an air compressor at TSC and offered 200 dollars less than they were asking and they took my offer. It had already been marked down 300 dollars because of a scratch and some other damage parts that had already been replaced. To beat that I got a 15 percent rebate from Ingersoll Rand being a retiree. So I paid 1250 for a 7.5 HP 80 gallon 2 stage air compressor plus tax.
Fordfarmer
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Yep, and you can dispose of them in my yard...
JohnDeereJimOhio
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When I buy stuff usually depends on the seller. I got a tractor one time at half the asking cost because it was a kid selling grandpas old tractor and he didn't want it. Told me he wanted to buy a scooter and I knew I could get him down. If i am buying something that is priced fair I usually ask seller if they will help a little with diesel cost and take a couple hundred off ( I usually drive 1-400 miles to pick up old rust. However when I am selling parts or tractors it depends on situation. Friend or fellow collector I price it reasonable so they aren't getting beat up and im making some money on it but if they had too they can resell and get their money back or a little more. I agree though I hate when people come and start to pick your stuff apart and shoot you a low offer....
wasn't thinking about grocerys,Wife does the grocerys LOL
But i will dicker over a coat or a pair of coveralls,parts and everything farm related.
It's amazing how much a guy can save with a little haggeling
I bought today a new air compressor (3 cyl pump 80 gal tank,US made) at my local co-op.
Sticker price was $1499. i took it home for $1050. :wink:
rick deere
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I just bought a 720lp,j.d. wide front 3 point, clucth had been off for 6yrs , brakes were stuck,fair tires, needs tlc, ask the man what he thought about price, he told me and I paid him, no trying to get for less, he looked kinda surprized, and thanked me.Than I went to the man who told me about it and gave him a 100 bill as well, hoping he might fined me another tractor sometimes.
larry@stinescorners
Member
if you think your fords are crummy,then your judgement is way off,being your judgement is off,maybe you should give yellow squash another try, just in case you do like it,,,,,
Ultradog MN
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You mean the squash?
massey 333
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Bison,you need to read Super 99s piece,that is done a lot to known price hagglers and they are so wraped up in the game they end up paying full or over the normal.I pay what I want to pay but don"t haggle.
The prices for EVERYTHING we buy are ultimately set by dickering, haggling, bargaining, or whatever you call it.
How do you think the price of corn is set? One guy says, "I'll buy at $8.46 a bushel." Another guy says, "I'll sell at $8.51." They HAGGLE back and forth and arrive at a price.
Yes, the art of the haggle is lost to most people. They think that because the prices at stores are "set" that their price is also set.
Getting shot for trying to haggle? I'd be moving away from there ASAP.
When I sell I always set the price a little high to leave room for haggling. If someone's fool enough to pay full price, bully for me.
Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to haggling. I'll pay more when buying, and take less when selling, than I should.
How do you think the price of corn is set? One guy says, "I'll buy at $8.46 a bushel." Another guy says, "I'll sell at $8.51." They HAGGLE back and forth and arrive at a price.
Yes, the art of the haggle is lost to most people. They think that because the prices at stores are "set" that their price is also set.
Getting shot for trying to haggle? I'd be moving away from there ASAP.
When I sell I always set the price a little high to leave room for haggling. If someone's fool enough to pay full price, bully for me.
Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to haggling. I'll pay more when buying, and take less when selling, than I should.
Fordfarmer
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No, drop those off at my Dad's... his steers will eat them.
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