Are highway miles shorter than regular miles ?? I don't seem to remember in math class if there was a difference ever brought up .. I was perusing thru Craigslist looking for a Jeep Wrangler to make a couple of bucks at.. I found one with a 6 cylinder 5 speed with "ONLY 253,000 highway miles on it" for 6 grand..... Well, What a steal !! First; Am I the only one who thinks this ?? Second; Who in their right mind would drive one of these 253,000 miles ???
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T in NE
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Highway miles aren't shorter, but are easier than city miles, as there is less accelerating, braking, etc, so the transmission and brakes have had it a little easier. But a 1/4 million is a 1/4 million.
Who would pay that much for something with a 1/4 million miles (and probably 20 years old) would be a better question. Rust isn't that big an issue on a Jeep considering that you can build one from scratch out of a catalog.
Who would pay that much for something with a 1/4 million miles (and probably 20 years old) would be a better question. Rust isn't that big an issue on a Jeep considering that you can build one from scratch out of a catalog.
Formerly PaMike
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I looked at a duramax recently. It had 200K on it. Guy insisted it only really had 100k on it cause it was pulled bekind an RV that racked up 100K on the meter. Not sure how you would rack up miles on an electronic odometer by towing it. I didnt argue, just left.
Bob Bancroft
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Could be inferring "off road" miles, as well as "city miles".
jimg.allentown
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No, highway miles are not shorter. They are the same 5.280 feet whether highway, city, country, or racetrack. However, the wear and tear on the vehicle IS different for each type of miles. Highway miles generally involve little use of brakes and suspension, as most highways are smoother than other roads, and generally have few if any stops other than for necessities. City miles tend to be rougher on brakes, transmissions, and tires due to frequent stopping and starting. Country driving tends to be a bit tougher on suspensions due to differences in road surfaces.
IMHO, $6000 is way too much money for a vehicle with that many miles on it.
IMHO, $6000 is way too much money for a vehicle with that many miles on it.
Typically highway miles are not as hard on a car as stop and go traffic. Some experts claim the factor at almost 2 to 1. In other words 250,000 highway miles is equivalent to 125,000 city miles.
Not sure I believe that ratio factor totally, but I do know that I have a 2004 Chevy Aveo with 276K on the odometer. I purchased car new. Car still runs excellent and most of its miles have been highway. Other than 1 front wheel bearing and the rubber hose to the the airbox no other none wear parts have been replaced on the car.
Tires, brakes, timing belts (preventative every 90K), spark plugs, and plug wires, and a couple headlamp bulbs have been replaced and that is it.
Well I did have to put a battery in it after 9 years 5 months and 273K miles. Shocks and struts are even original.
I plan to run this car into the ground to see how many miles it will go. I just changed the timing belt again so good for another 90k. Although a crap box on wheels it has been the most dependable vehicle that I have ever owned and by far the cheapest that I have ever owned on a cost per mile basis.
That said, trouble with used car salesman is they will say any car with high miles is highway miles trying to make a sale when that may not be the case. Even though highway miles are less hard on a vehicle I would not pay a premium when buying used either as they still miles.
Not sure I believe that ratio factor totally, but I do know that I have a 2004 Chevy Aveo with 276K on the odometer. I purchased car new. Car still runs excellent and most of its miles have been highway. Other than 1 front wheel bearing and the rubber hose to the the airbox no other none wear parts have been replaced on the car.
Tires, brakes, timing belts (preventative every 90K), spark plugs, and plug wires, and a couple headlamp bulbs have been replaced and that is it.
Well I did have to put a battery in it after 9 years 5 months and 273K miles. Shocks and struts are even original.
I plan to run this car into the ground to see how many miles it will go. I just changed the timing belt again so good for another 90k. Although a crap box on wheels it has been the most dependable vehicle that I have ever owned and by far the cheapest that I have ever owned on a cost per mile basis.
That said, trouble with used car salesman is they will say any car with high miles is highway miles trying to make a sale when that may not be the case. Even though highway miles are less hard on a vehicle I would not pay a premium when buying used either as they still miles.
T in NE
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Hey, both my running trucks got a 1/4 million miles. and can buy themselves a beer. The one that needs a transmission is the same age, but only 120,000 miles. Go figure.
Anonymous-0
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I'm sure Roy understands highway vs. local miles as well as any of us.
As long as we're telling of our personal experiences.....Our 252,350 mile '93 Bonneville has rarely left Brown County,WI. Tons of cold starts/short trips, and it is still as reliable as sll get out. I won't list every battery and brake shoe it's worn out, but I will hold this car up to ANY vehicle. Just plain a great car.
Glenn F.
As long as we're telling of our personal experiences.....Our 252,350 mile '93 Bonneville has rarely left Brown County,WI. Tons of cold starts/short trips, and it is still as reliable as sll get out. I won't list every battery and brake shoe it's worn out, but I will hold this car up to ANY vehicle. Just plain a great car.
Glenn F.
I can't say I've seen many go that many miles, but if it's taken care of then it's going to last. I think we have 5 Jeeps here now. I know they aren't for everyone, but they make a great chore vehicle and my wifes loves hers for going back and forth to work.
My only surprise was at the asking price. Thats pretty high for an older Jeep.
Hay hay hay
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Amazing.
Hay hay hay
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Roy, time and things change. When I was young, all cars were worn out at 100,000 miles. Today you would be surprised if you checked the average grocery store parking lot, 60 or 70% of the vehicles would be 150,000 miles or more. I am surprised by how far they will go. My vet has 305,000 miles on his 2006 Chevy suburban, bought new, stop and start all day long, never touched the engine, tranny or rear end. Lots of brakes and minor stuff. It is worth a lot more than nothing, just as a local driver.
Obviously, an auto with 200K highway miles has much less wear and tear on most everything. Fewer cold starts, fewer transmission shifts, less use of the brakes. Heck, even the door hinges last a lot longer. I used to work in a shop that fixed taxi cabs. HUGE difference in wear and tear.
Highway driven miles result in a lot less wear then stop-and-go city miles. Non-driven highway miles results in even less wear. I've got two vehicles that spend their first 100K miles being towed behind a motorhome. I.e. they racked up a lot of miles on odometer without the engine even running.
Highway driven miles result in a lot less wear then stop-and-go city miles. Non-driven highway miles results in even less wear. I've got two vehicles that spend their first 100K miles being towed behind a motorhome. I.e. they racked up a lot of miles on odometer without the engine even running.
Anonymous-0
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My 2000 Chev 2500 has 142000 miles and near 8000 hours, lot of low gear and idling on the farm, everything still works but the rust is starting and somebody has put dents all over it. I will drive it as long as I can.
RandyB(MI)
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Just to add another "story" My brother worked for GM in 1981 and drove ,on the freeway, 1 hr to and 1 hr back from work every day. Wouldn't carpool. Wasn't long it had 100,000 on it and he was going to trade it in. I convinced him to sell it to me as he did. It still had the original tires (35% tread) original brakes seats/carpet like new, never a trans or engine repair and no dents or rust and never been to a body shop. There's not many vehicles driven 100.000 in or around the city that havn't been wrecked at one time or another. It isn't just about wear and tear on mechanicals it's about collision damage and interior/seat wear. At 50,000 of city driving the seat will be junk,pedals worn off to steel, rust everywhere from all the salt in the cities streets and bondo from all the fender benders and mismatched paint from cheap wanna-bee body shops. My late uncle lived/worked in Lansing , MI and his cars were junk at 50,000 miles.
RandyB(MI)
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Sorry forgot to mention it was a 1981 Olds Cutlass he bought new.
farmer boy
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I'll take a vehicle with 150,000 highway miles all day long over a vehicle with 150,000 miles that never saw more than 50 miles at a time. A vehicle driven on an interstate rarely has the brakes used, compared to a city driven vehicle. The suspension barely moves. The wheel bearings are never shocked. The transmission hardly ever shifts. The engine is doing little more than idling along. The only thing that's the same is the amount of salt it gets on it in the winter.
My work truck is an '03 GMC 1500 2wd 4.8L auto short bed, ext cab with 644,000 kms (400,000 miles) and is stone cold reliable. Tires\brakes once a year and thats about it. One orignal GM u-joint made it to 530,000 km's before needing replacement.
I've been offered new 4wd Chev\GMC's as replacements, but after seeing the sales guys repair bills at 40,000 k's, I'm not risking a change.
I get 600+ k's to a tank of fuel on the hwy at 125-127 km/h, set on cruise religiously.
If I know the history of a vehicle with high miles, I wouldn't think twice about considering it.
I don't put more then 2500 km a year on my personal truck and it seems everytime I turn around I'm replacing the brakes and front wheel bearings.
I've been offered new 4wd Chev\GMC's as replacements, but after seeing the sales guys repair bills at 40,000 k's, I'm not risking a change.
I get 600+ k's to a tank of fuel on the hwy at 125-127 km/h, set on cruise religiously.
If I know the history of a vehicle with high miles, I wouldn't think twice about considering it.
I don't put more then 2500 km a year on my personal truck and it seems everytime I turn around I'm replacing the brakes and front wheel bearings.
Texasmark1
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Got your question answered. However there is a difference is Statute (land) miles at 5280' vs Nautical (sea) miles which are related to the separation of the lines of longitude at 6076'.
Mark
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