box scraper question

when we got this tractor, the box scraper had been used and abused, so we are wondering what is the best way to fix it.




these nuts and bolts are still good, right ?


i think we need to find and replace the piece of angle iron. DH thinks we need to build it back up by welding and drilling and grinding. what do y'all think ? i may have posted this in the wrong place, if i did, please let me know where is the best place to post. thanks

If was me I'd rather look into replacing angle iron over welding and grinding

OK, so you're going to replace the cutting edge, and the concern is there won't be enough material behind the edge to keep it from flexing. It looks to me that there's still enough material that it isn't really necessary to repair the moldboard. But I suppose you could weld on a piece of bar stock of the appropriate dimensions to build it back up. That would be easier than trying to build it up with weld bead, which is what I think your Significant Other is proposing to do.

I'm on the same page with MarkB.
Loren, the Acg.

I can't imagine how many pounds of rods it would
take to well it, not to mention the time and
electricity.

I had a 7 ft 3 pt box blade, which I didn't like.
Sold it on craigslist for $225. I would be
looking for a used blade. New box blades with
scarfires sell for about what it would cost for
just scarfires.

If nothing else bolt on two new scraper blades. No
way I would weld and grind. Perhaps weld on a new
support to back new blade.

I would just cut and bolt on a piece of old snow plow cutting edge from the selection that I have lying around here. But, I suppose snow plows are not very common where you are.

Jennifer:

Over the years I've changed out many cutter blades
& slobber bits on Dozers, Graders, & Scrapers. As
for yours, I would weld a 2" wide piece of Bar
Stock along the entire length of the Moldboard.
Next, with a rotary file, rasp out any of the
holes that have been partially closed by the
welding or addition of the bar stock. Then put on
the new cutter blade. Get a cutting blade with 2
cutting edges (wider than a single edge blade) so
that when you wear down the cutting edge you just
turn the blade end-for-end and have a new cutting
edge. If you can, get the good Swedish Steel
blades, they'll last a lot longer than anything
else. Also, when you put the nuts on the plow
bolts, do NOT use the split-ring type of lock-
washer, they don't hold up to the abuse. Use the
THICK Belville washers (they look like warped flat
washers). Split-ring lock-washers exert their
pressure against only 1/2 of the nut, while
Belville washers exert the pressure across the
ENTIRE FACE of the nut.

Doc

PS:
Check out your local town or county Road
Departments for used Motor-grader cutter blades. A
lot of times they'll change out a double edged
blade that still has a lot of life left on one of
the cutting edges. You can usually get them cheap
& sometimes even for FREE. :>)

New cutting edge and bolts, holes aren't wore through, I would say there is still plenty of strength left in the support.

I wouldn't do anything but replace the cutting edge
either, I think there is enough left to hold.

Looks like a Land Pride blade to me , I can tell you all you need is the right blade and some new bolts. Tractor is not strong enough to tear up what is left there. Just do a good job of replacing the blade and use you implement as it should be used and I think you will be fine. Pretty common blade any good dealer should be abel to get you the blade.

I personally think that a new cutting edge would make that thing good as new... If you don't want to buy a new new one, then you can try going to your local independent highway department, or something to that nature. I needed one for a 6 foot blade on time, and I went in to ask if I could order a new one through them, and the guy took me outside and he had about 30 or 40 of them that were no longer fit for one of the big road graders, but I thought they looked really nice, FREE... Bryce

It's a Gannon.The model number should be tagged on the scarifier bar.

http://www.messicks.com/woodsbrands/Gannon.aspx

I agree, or ya could jus pour some Sea Foam mixed wif WD 40 on it an see if'n it grows back to original size!

Before I retired, We had under-body scrapers worn
that bad and just replaced the cutting edge. Never
had a problem and they lasted years. Just don't let
the new edge get that bad. Get a 3/4" under-body
cutting edge and you will never wear it out.

yea, it is a gannon. woods owns it now. i called them today and they said it is all one piece, so we are going to weld on a piece of bar and drill out for the bolt holes. were gonna put a new blade on it, didn't know about a swiss one that is tougher, but im gonna check into it now that i know. thanks for the advice
well since it looks like were gonna hafta be doing some welding on bertha, it was the perfect excuse to go fetch a new stick welder.

Put a new cutting edge on, bolt it tight, then clamp a 1 to 1-1/2"
wide piece of same thickness flat stock, to the cutting edge, and
weld the new to the old, staying away from the bolt holes. Should
be plenty strong enough...