Push-Pull plowing

WIZZO · Nov 7, 2014

casenut1 · Nov 7, 2014

Whoa that is quite an outfit.

Wheatfarmer · Nov 7, 2014

What are they plowing up? Is there are advantage to push/pull over just pulling? weight on the front is a plus.

Alan K · Nov 7, 2014

That is what I was thinking. Im betting it would have to be very light soil for that to work good.

J.Wondergem · Nov 7, 2014

That's what I like about this board. See something I never seen before.

gene bender · Nov 7, 2014

Look on u-tube they have bigger ones

Cas · Nov 7, 2014

Thanks for posting it is very interesting. Can you use that combination in heavy clay or a lot of trash laying on the ground?

paul · Nov 7, 2014

Interesting how we all farm, but the details can be so different.

Thanks for the pics.

Paul

mkirsch · Nov 7, 2014

The advantage is in transport on the narrow country roads of Europe, I think.

Rather than one long 7-bottom plow trailing behind you've got a 3-bottom up front and a 4-bottom out back that are fully mounted and much more maneuverable.

Here in the USA we've got more wide open spaces and wider roads, so it's not as much of an issue.

Leroy · Nov 7, 2014

Hor could you guide that thing out front?

Bob Bancroft · Nov 7, 2014

I am always interested in how things are done elsewhere. But what really catches my eye about these pictures from the British Isles is the beautiful soil. I don't see the stone that I have to deal with here in the northeast US where the glaciers left me lots.

Dick2 · Nov 7, 2014

When pushing the plow, the resultant force will be to the left on the front of the tractor. The plow being pulled, with the same number of bottoms, will tend to push the tractor to the right. The resultant forces will cancel each other, in theory, allowing the tractor to move straight forward. However, if one plow is lifted while the other is still in the ground, there could be a lot of side force on the tractor.

Interesting concept though.

oj · Nov 7, 2014

Hey Wizzo. where was the ploughing match??? soil
looks like Monmouthshire perhaps (old red
sandstone) and i think i can see the sugarloaf in
the background (although i'm not sure)... my old
neck of the woods before i moved west across the
pond...

WIZZO · Nov 7, 2014

The concept was invented by Ransomes in Britain and was copied by several other European plow manufacturers.

The principal was to utilize the increasing tractor HP because the rear point lifting capacity was on its limited with 5 mounted furrows. The weight of the front plow added to the traction of the front driving axle aiming at 50:50 weight distribution on front & rear wheels.

In practice it was difficult to steer straight line and balance up front & rear plows furrows. A nightmare to drive through gateways onto roads and along narrow roads with car traffic. They need large flat fields, preferably in one block with no public roads to travel on.

Most plows are now vari-width with furrows adjustable hydraulicly from 12 to 20 inches wide so the load can be reduced to suit the soil type; and with deep digger bodies surface trash can be buried.

The idea never took off in vast numbers of sales, and only Overum in Sweden who purchased Ransomes sell them to-day.

The ever increasing HP & tractor sizes now use semi-mounted plows and even ones with articulated frames.

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