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The wife went to do registrations today. The Town Clerk was out and her helper said that my wife had to send me because I have to answer questions in order to register my farm tractors. I know where it is going because the law states that only farm tractors can be registered as farm tractors. A lot of guys with LBHs are registering them as farm tractors because they can save quite a bit of money. The clerk was asking me about it a few years ago because it was bothering her but she didn't know how to go about deterring what the tractor is really used for. I told her to make them show her the AG R-1 tires. My friend who has a Kubota that he uses mainly in the woods is going to be very upset.
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:31 04/07/15) Register farm tractors for what????? Do you live in Europe????
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We dont even have to do that in California! I hope Sacramento doesnt get any funny ideas
 
(quoted from post at 19:43:38 04/07/15) The wife went to do registrations today. The Town Clerk was out and her helper said that my wife had to send me because I have to answer questions in order to register my farm tractors. I know where it is going because the law states that only farm tractors can be registered as farm tractors. A lot of guys with LBHs are registering them as farm tractors because they can save quite a bit of money. The clerk was asking me about it a few years ago because it was bothering her but she didn't know how to go about deterring what the tractor is really used for. I told her to make them show her the AG R-1 tires. My friend who has a Kubota that he uses mainly in the woods is going to be very upset.
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ever heard of registering tractors. Stick a slow moving vehicle triangle on it and you can drive them on the road.
 
Yes, here in NH they are required to be registered to be driven on the road. For most farm tractors it is under $20.00. It is not strongly enforced and many people ignore it, but a friend got a summons once for not being registered. And then there is the problem that if you are involved in an accident such as a car coming the other way when someone is passing you, you could be in significant trouble. For the cost it is not worth it to me to be in violation. LBH is loader backhoe.
 
That's funny, given the subject matter! Leave it to the East Coastistan to find new ways to tax and track.
 
In my state tractors for farm use are exempt and covered under a farm policy for accident. If it not farm it does need a licence Backhoes and special equipment and such have a special plate
 
Here if it's not used for farming there is no property taxes. So if your not working but just playing while moving round bales in the cow pasture...
 
That is kinda how it is in Nebraska too. They base the personal property on your IRS depreciation schedule. So if you had hobby or older tractors they would be exempt. When I first came to NE they taxed us on cows but they since took those off. I guess years ago they taxed ALL personal property, even the silverware in your kitchen drawer. People called it a "liars tax" because folks tended to report what they wanted to report. They must get a larger share from real estate taxes now which seems to me puts a disproportionate burden on ag land owners. One thing for sure. It takes money to run the government programs and services that we all want and need (Plus some we don't) and the Government is going to get that money some way.
 
Here its based on if you take the vehicle on the road. If its engaged in farming its tax free, registration optional regardless of tractor, backhoe, etc. If you own a tractor or
backhoe to say plow a series of lots in town, it better have a plate and clear fuel in it.
 
(quoted from post at 07:24:26 04/08/15) What states have this kind of B.S.law, and for how long...PIZZA'S me off...MTP
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How long? I have a pic that my mother took of me driving the neighbor's Ford 960 when I was 14. It shows the plate on that tractor in 1963.
 
I hear you. Around here the property tax on agricultural land is much less than residential and commercial is I think the worst. But I think you have to show you are using (leasing it is acceptable) for agricultural uses for it to be zoned agricultural. That kinda makes up for the fact farms own more land. But as we know property tax on a lot of land is still tough and that is why many small farmers, especially when they retire decide to sell of the land--cash in on the dirt crop for someone that wants to grow houses and reduce their property taxes at the same time.

Property taxes also varies by county and the cities and towns also can charge property taxes if your in them. That makes an enormous difference too.

At one time I heard of people having a few goats on their property--just enough to qualify as agricultural.

I know the county here actually has people that ride up and down the roads looking for additions to houses and new buildings that haven't been reported to the tax office. They found my carport and the enclosed one beside it. :( They didn't say anything to me--it just showed up on my property taxes years after they went up. I didn't report them as they're just those metal things you see for sale everywhere--no floors. I was also told specifically by the company I bought them from that I didn't need a permit to put them up but others have said that somehow I just slipped by and I should have had one.
 

They have been registered for decades here.

If it's on the road, it's plated.

Real farmers (not just anyone with a tractor) pay once and it's plated for life. Non farmer that owns tractor for their acreage pays yearly to renew.

You also need auto (not property or business) liability to operate on the road.

Here? No plates and no insurance? You are at fault. I heard about a guy that got REAR ENDED on the road by someone who wasn't paying attention, he didn't have liability insurance on the tractor so therefore he was at fault since he was "illegal" Cost him $10k for an accident he didn't cause.
 
Vehicles of animal husbandry do not need to be licensed here in Ontario , Canada. That can be a tractor,
combine, truck mounted TMR mixer, or truck mounted forage box. Just as long as the unit is livestock use , no
registration.
 
(quoted from post at 19:29:26 04/08/15) Vehicles of animal husbandry do not need to be licensed here in Ontario , Canada. That can be a tractor,
combine, truck mounted TMR mixer, or truck mounted forage box. Just as long as the unit is livestock use , no
registration.
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Don't give that man hater , vegetarian, anti hunter and green energy subsidy supporter Kathline Whynne or how ever you spell the horrible woman's name. Any ideas about raising revenue to buy more welfare votes by licensing farm equipment like Europe does . She is already set to sell the bear store, the lcbo, ontario power generation and hydro one
 
Amazing. In CO we don't register tractors, loaders, backhoe's, or any farm equipment unless it is being used for hire. If it is used for your farm use only and you are not hiring yourself out you can just go about your business. Drive it on the road and even transport with no problem. Hire yourself out and you better have a SME or DOT will wreck your day.

Greg
 
In Ohio the farmers have a good lobbyist at the state legislature. Lots of benefits reduced property tax, no sales tax, exempt from zoning
laws, no tractor licensing.
 
I, heard something interesting about the state of Wi today. They now have a wt. limit on about all roads & hiways for farm equpt, Manure spreader tankers and big combines with big corn heads and other machines. Heard that the largest 'green' combine with a 16 row head is overweight and will get a sizeable fine for the farmer. Large tractors are affected too. What next ? Anything to get money for the state to spend foolishly
Yes I know that heavy loads help to bust up roads , but how is the farmer to get his work finished now?.
Has anyone else heard of this ?
 
(quoted from post at 20:22:49 04/08/15) I, heard something interesting about the state of Wi today. They now have a wt. limit on about all roads & hiways for farm equpt, Manure spreader tankers and big combines with big corn heads and other machines. Heard that the largest 'green' combine with a 16 row head is overweight and will get a sizeable fine for the farmer. Large tractors are affected too. What next ? Anything to get money for the state to spend foolishly
Yes I know that heavy loads help to bust up roads , but how is the farmer to get his work finished now?.
Has anyone else heard of this ?
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All states to the best of my knowledge have weight limits for all vehicles which are determined by the number of axles. The maximum weights are enforced by weigh stations on major highways. here in NH they also have turnouts on secondary roads, for setting up portable scales, as well as roving portables that can pop up anywhere that the DOT thinks that they can catch overloaded vehicles. Why should farm vehicles not have to comply with the same limits? I could see manure tankers really tearing up back roads. I think that Wisconsin was in the news recently for temporary springtime road bans. There are usually early morning allowances for travel on roads covered by road bans as my road is at the present time.
 
(quoted from post at 02:43:10 04/09/15) In Ohio the farmers have a good lobbyist at the state legislature. Lots of benefits reduced property tax, no sales tax, exempt from zoning laws, no tractor licensing.
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That would be the Ohio Farm Bureau... working for you even if you aren't a member.
 
I don't see what the big deal is about registering tractors. There's been a requirement to register them here in nova scotia.... since time immemorial. It's really not a big deal. You buy a tractor. You go to DMV with legal title and certificate of origin. They register it with title in your name and give you a 'no expiry' plate that has no renewal and I don't think much of a fee. The only real requirement is that you're a registered farm and you provide proof of insurance. The best part is... if the thing is stolen... it's got to go underground to be of any use.

Rod
 

I've never seen a tractor title. It would require a whole new bureaucracy to set up that type of system, please don't give our pols any new ideas to tax us!
 
(quoted from post at 07:56:51 04/09/15)
(quoted from post at 20:22:49 04/08/15) I, heard something interesting about the state of Wi today. They now have a wt. limit on about all roads & hiways for farm equpt, Manure spreader tankers and big combines with big corn heads and other machines. Heard that the largest 'green' combine with a 16 row head is overweight and will get a sizeable fine for the farmer. Large tractors are affected too. What next ? Anything to get money for the state to spend foolishly
Yes I know that heavy loads help to bust up roads , but how is the farmer to get his work finished now?.
Has anyone else heard of this ?
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All states to the best of my knowledge have weight limits for all vehicles which are determined by the number of axles. The maximum weights are enforced by weigh stations on major highways. here in NH they also have turnouts on secondary roads, for setting up portable scales, as well as roving portables that can pop up anywhere that the DOT thinks that they can catch overloaded vehicles. Why should farm vehicles not have to comply with the same limits? I could see manure tankers really tearing up back roads. I think that Wisconsin was in the news recently for temporary springtime road bans. There are usually early morning allowances for travel on roads covered by road bans as my road is at the present time.
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Around here the BTOs can haul a gazillion tons of liquid manure down the road any time of the year and not a thing is said but an Amish guy hauling 5 milk cans to the dumping station in a buggy pulled by a single 800 lbs horse is said to be "tearing up the roads". Makes a lot of sense.
 
It doesn't require a damn thing to set it up. It's just done by DMV the same as a car. The best part being that nobody can ever register the thing for road use again if it's stolen.

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 11:06:24 04/11/15) It doesn't require a damn thing to set it up. It's just done by DMV the same as a car. The best part being that nobody can ever register the thing for road use again if it's stolen.

Rod
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t does not take much to swap the serial/model # tag on a tractor with one from a wrecker (2 to 4 rivets).

just saying
 
More to it than you think when they're stamped... it's really no different than a car or truck. If the tag doesn't match all the 4-7 component numbers that are stamped then there would be some questions to answer..

Rod
 
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