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Using the TA on my Farmall 460

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I have a 1961 Farmall 460 and I was wondering if I could use the TA in the hay field for thick hay while baling or mowing. I know it wouldn't "hurt" it for short times but what if I went across the field with it on the low side? I know not to go down hill or let it free wheel on the low side. I have read the manual and read the shop manual, nothing really says how long the TA can be on the low side on these old manual TA's. I guess I am just looking for advice from you guys, I trust you guys way more than the 25-35 year old guys at CaseIH.

Thanks in advance!

 
Use it as a real gear any time you need slower speed in any gear use it. If going down hill coasting, (no load) leave it in direct (forward) and idle down. Using it does not wear it out at all!!. Jim
 
I don't think there is any time limit. As you already know, don't use it for dynamic braking or let it freewheel downhill.
 
It seems like the consensus among the more knowledgeable folks on this forum is that they get
destroyed from abuse, not normal use. In my opinion what you describe won't hurt it at all and I
use the one on my 350 frequently in similar conditions. To me it is one of the things that makes
the Farmalls from the 50's more useful than many other tractors of that vintage.
 
Use it.

On or off, don't try to feather it slowly in the middle...

Use it in high, use it in low. Doesn't matter for time.

Paul
 
Thank you guys! I was thinking that's the way it was. When I do use it, I jerk it back or throw it forward. I never put it in the middle at all. I read on here this quote and I live by it. "Push it forward as if you were reaching for a hundred dollar bill and Pull it back as if you were putting it in your pocket.
 
Lets say your baling hay,straw and your going DOWN HILL and ya need to slow down a bit to feed in a large windrow just ride BOTH brakes just enough to load the T/A in the low side and you will be fine as i have done this for years . I also do this when i use the T/A at the head lands while turning and i want to keep the RPM's up but need to slow forward travel for turning .
 
I used the one on my 400D many times today making round hay.

This topic came up a while back and I remember something about the later hydraulic T/A's being ok to leave on for long periods
such as extended plowing.

I don't see what the issue would be with leaving the older mechanical ones on for a while. Everything is riding on bearings and
bathed in oil. I agree the manual should have something to say if it's a no-no. Baling is hardly any stress on the drive parts
anyway.

I haven't broken any of our T/A's yet...
 
The gears inside the TA are being used to reduce rpm, and increase torque, when the lever is back. however, the ta throwout bearing is doing nothing but holding the ta clutch released. That clutch is not moving either, so no wear. The TA sprag clutch is locked when this is happening, so really no wear there either.
When in direct the TA clutch is engaged (transmitting power) and the TA throwout bearing is not touching the fingers, no wear. the Sprag clutch is rotating, which does wear on the tips of the sprags or diameter of the rollers (differing types of one way clutch). So it is kind of a toss up. Just use it. Jim
 
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