Almost tractor related, they have tracks

Wife and myself took a trip to Arizona a month or a ago. We stopped at the general Patton museum in Indio Ca. The better tanks were inside a fenced area. These tanks were just sitting out back. Don't know much about them. We never had tanks in the Navy. General Patton used this desert area for training before he took his men over seas to fight the Germans in the desert. There were thousands of men here. Almost nothing now. The dog wanted to make sure I didn't get lost. Stan

Neat pictures, beautiful doggy.

We can't have a warrior like Patton now. Too bad. He was so politically incorrect he almost got canned over 70 years ago!

The US don't fight wars to win anymore.

In 71 I had Patton's grandson as a college dorm room mate. Interesting and a fan of his granddad Jim

Both you and Bob are so correct!

My neighbor had a relative that lived near Los Angeles. He had a neighbor that picked him up on his birthday, to take him for a ride. They went to that site of Patton's Camp. They wondered around looking over stuff, the birthday guy said this place sure looks familiar! There were some 'Youngsters" trying do move a dead tank, Birthday guy told them where to find the tow disconnect, then it moved, He talked to a lot of others that day. Had a great time there. Said it was the best birthday ever. Familiar? Yep, He was there with Patton in the origional camp!

Those are M 60s. Maybe M 60A1.Came into service about the 50s and replace the M48 gas jobs. The ones in the pic are diesel. I drove and gunned one of them.

Patton almost got canned!!!!!

He!! THEY KILLED HIM him in a "mysterious auto "accident"!!!!!!!!

The picture of your dog resting his head on your shoulder belongs in a magazine.

(quoted from post at 18:21:06 11/10/15) Those are M 60s. Maybe M 60A1.Came into service about the 50s and replace the M48 gas jobs. The ones in the pic are diesel. I drove and gunned one of them.

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Actually if you look they have the boxes mounted on the turret sides as well as a bracket forward of that and lower. The boxes were for storing smoke grenades and the bracket was the launcher mount point. That indicates M60A1 RISE or M60A3.

Old retired tanker.

Rick

They are M60's, but I honestly never knew the difference between an A1, A2, or A3. I was stationed at Ft. Hood in 1983 when the M60's were being replaced by the Abraham, the M113 was being replaced by the Bradley, the Jeeps and Dodges being replaced by CUCV's (Chevy Blazers and pickups), but we kept our Kaiser 2.5 and 5 tons, 155mm self propelleds, and horses. But not everything that stayed was outdated or ineffective. Bless them all and Gamma Goats.

Mark

Where can I get a collar like that?

Funny. I have a Yellow Lab just like him...maybe not quite so pointy a nose.
His name is Stan!

I have stopped there on the way through from Arizona to California, 20 some years ago, kind of forget now, might have some photos. Took over a month off roaming the southwest and CO, Utah etc. lots to see.

(quoted from post at 19:45:45 11/10/15) They are M60's, but I honestly never knew the difference between an A1, A2, or A3. I was stationed at Ft. Hood in 1983 when the M60's were being replaced by the Abraham, the M113 was being replaced by the Bradley, the Jeeps and Dodges being replaced by CUCV's (Chevy Blazers and pickups), but we kept our Kaiser 2.5 and 5 tons, 155mm self propelleds, and horses. But not everything that stayed was outdated or ineffective. Bless them all and Gamma Goats.

Mark

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The A1 had a mechanical range finder that the TC had to use to get the range and a mechanical ballistic computer. It had a IR and day light periscope plus the back up telescopic sight. And lets not forget the search light. They never actually released an A2 version. The A3 had a laser range finder and a TTS (thermal sight), electronic ballistic computer. The TTS did away with the search light. In 74 the COAX was different too. The M63 was being phased out in favor of the M219 machine gun. In 78 they gave us the M240. Both the 63 and 219 were jamomatics. I never saw one that would fire more that 3 burst before they jammed.

Besides the many other changes the M1 killed the M3 .45 sub gun. Originally the M1 was issued one M16 as a crew served weapon.

They got rid on the duce and a half during the draw down in the 90's. They had enough of the new AMGeneral 5 tons (Turbo Cummin's and Allison autos) to replace them from units that were being shut down. They kept the Ford MUTT jeep until they were replaced by the HMMV. Right before they got rid of the M151's they put at great expense ROPS on them and installed seat belts. They did the ROPS conversion on ours and 6 months later the Hummers replaced them. In the mid 80's they got rid of the M110 8" guns and replaced them with the MLRS (multiple launce rocket system). The so called new 155 is basically a worked over M109 but much improved. The 120MM mortar replaced the old 4.2" and they got rid of the 60MM. They were issuing the M249 machine gun as the squad automatic weapon. A version of the M240 has not replaced the M60 and they are currently issuing a new .50. No more head space and timing. From what I'm told the crew served M16 has given way to each crew member on a tank having an M4 carbine mostly because of the post 9/11 wars. Oh and I forgot the medium trucks they bought. 8X8 with 2 steering axles and the cargo model has a crane. They also have roll off ones so a driver can pull into a staging area, roll off a load of ammo and go back for another load. That's now been replaced too.

Rick

I took my son to the Patton museum by Fort Knox a few years back. It was awesome. I could have spent days there looking around.

My wife got the collar at our feed store. Stan