NEW REAR TIRES

JDBRIDER · Dec 8, 2016

Putting new rear tires and tubes on my John Deere "B". The tube was showing thru so I decided its time. Good used ones seem to be nonexistent. Decided on Firestone traction field and road. Its a working tractor and spends a lot of time outside so I wanted something that wouldn't weather check right away. I've replaced tires before but always used ones. Wonder if anyone has any words of wisdom to make the job better. Have the cast wheels and don't plan to put fluid in unless I find I need to for traction. The old ones had some fluid in and had no leaking. I'm going to inspect the wheels for burs or anything that might cause a problem. Will wire wheel any rust and paint with rustoleum. What does everyone recommend for lube and such. Thought about grease on the wheel where the bead is to prevent rust from moisture due to being outside but that might be bad for the rubber. Want to get the max life out of them. Thanks for any help.

Bryce Frazier · Dec 8, 2016

There is actually a wax like product FOR seating beads on tires and such. Washes off with water after you have got the tire mounted on the wheel. Throw that stuff on thick, mount the tire, air it up, then power wash it off! Works great, and I think it is suppose to help seal up the tire, and will also make it not as hard to dis mount, should you ever have to take it off.

Wish I could point you in the direction of where to get the stuff, I have an unmarked 2 gallon pail that was given to me nearly empty from a local tire shop, and I have never emptied it out, but an close.

rlp in Co. · Dec 8, 2016

When I change tires I always use grease. I have never seen it cause any problem, in fact I have some rims that are old and have had several sets of tires and absolutely no rust inside the rim.

old popper · Dec 8, 2016

Is the product name "Murphy's"??

Dalex · Dec 8, 2016

Tire Mounting Compound . Napa has a variety of it, Myers Tire Supply makes it too under their Phoenix brand . It's about $28 fpr 5 gallons last time I bought it . It comes in 1 or 2 gallon pails too .

Oregon Tractor Jack · Dec 8, 2016

To help dismount and mount tires, Murphy's Oil Soap works great. It is not overly running and will wash off with easily. You should wire brush the old rims and make sure they are sound before you mount your tires. Painting the inside is gook also. Looking for meat hooks and burrs is a good idea also. I would suggest you specify heavy duty tubes when you buy. Not all tubes are alike. I got a set with the last tires I bought that were so thin they felt like a plastic bag. Sent them back and found some locally that were much better.

OTJ

Geo-TH,In · Dec 8, 2016

I'm too old to fight changing tractor tires. There is a tire store in Sullivan, In that farmers and coal mining companies use for tire repair. Farmers even drive their tractors to the store. Not that expensive, plus they will put slime in tires. I haven't had to repair my tractor tires after they slimed them.

glennster · Dec 8, 2016

bryce theres a couple products, one is ru-glyde which is a tire mounting lubricant to get the tire mounted, then there is bead sealer, which you brush on the bead to seal it. napa part number for the bead seal is 510-1204. they also have ru-glyde.

Bob Bancroft · Dec 8, 2016

Murphy's makes a tire and tube lube which is basically just a grease form of their oil soap which can be found in the grocery store. I ordered a tub of the grease once. Now I just use the "oil soap".

SDE · Dec 8, 2016

tractor grave yards and swap meets will have used tires.

hd6gtom · Dec 8, 2016

JD do NOT use grease. It will eventually destroy the rubber around the bead. seen it too many times. Get some tire mounting liquid from NaPA. It has an anti rust built into it. Not as slick as some but for the size tires you are mounting it will be fine. It is far slicker than any dish soap. You have picked a good brand of tire to put on. I sold and mounted many semi loads of them. Please tell us you are putting new tubes in too. A duck billed tire hammer to break down the outside bead, take your bars and pull the outside bead off. that will allow you a little more room on the tractor to work the inside bead. Once the inside bead is broken down, pull the old tube, pop off the tire and you are ready to wire brush the rim. If I were you, I would have it close to electricity and use a drill or 4" grinder to remove any rust, far easier than a scraper and hand held wire brush. Simply lube up the new tire, make sure the tread is the right way, make sure the valve stem hole is the right way and mount her up. Put lots of lube on the rim before you start to air it up.

DeltaRed · Dec 8, 2016

I just use Dawn (or similar) dish soap.

old · Dec 8, 2016

Well number
#1 do nut use grease because it will over time hurt the rubber or both the tube and tire.
#2 use a product made just for that like Murphy's soap which any good tire place will have.
#3 I would use truck bed liner spray to coat the rim with it will work better to stop rust and hold up longer then any paint.
#4 if your going to do it your self and need tips as to how to do it send me an -mail and I'll send you a page that shows how to do your own tires. Comes out of an owners manual I have
I have worked doing tire repair and still do most of my own and if you have the knowledge of how to do them and the correct tools it is not all that hard to do. I can also send you info on how to fill tires with fluid

4wdtom · Dec 8, 2016

If you paint you may want to wait for a week or two for the paint to cure a bit. I don't know how long and it depends on the paint and how many coats and how thick you put it on. If the paint isn't cured to a certain point it will stick to the tube. I don't know about bed liner,how long it takes for that to cure.

Duner Wi · Dec 8, 2016

"Tire Lubricant and Mounting Compound"
Do a search for that. Gemplers has it.
Local Co-op fixes tires and they buy it in a pail.
They sell me a small amount in in my container.
I would not use lubricating grease.

onefarmer · Dec 8, 2016

After using soap for years, the rims are showing much more rust than the ones without. I started using a silicone spray and so far no rust or tire decay from it.

Rons b · Dec 8, 2016

For the rust on the rim there is a product rust converter made by several companies. Eastwood.com is one.
The lube use for mounting and sealing tires to rim is a vegetable soap. Its use in many applications to make rubber slide and doesn't attack the rubber. Its also good for the skin.

BushogPapa · Dec 8, 2016

You are ALL wrong...use TALC....

I keep about 50 lbs of it here for tire and tube mounting..

Really allows a Tube to get in place inside a tire..!

It is DRY, Slippery and will not damage the rubber..

Everyone has some "Baby Powder" in their home..

BushogPapa · Dec 8, 2016

I changed mine 2 years ago..bought a set of NEW Firestone 13.6x38" on 11" rims ( from a JD Model "A")..

Man, I LOVE them...they look Fantastic and really have improved the traction when I need to push limbs and trees out of the fields..!

It actually Barks in 1st gear sometimes now..!!
Sure leaves less tire marks and ruts, too..

Crazy Horse · Dec 8, 2016

Off topic a bit from your question but if it stays outside for non-working hours, get a pair of old tubes, maybe a couple of sizes bigger and splice them open along the inside circumference line and then trim out a section so what you end up is a nice tire shield that keeps the sun and weather off. Just lay them over top of the new ones and pull them on. They grip good and need nothing more than just their own weight unless you're in a hurricane. And of course proper inflation to keep the air pressure what it should be.

RandyB(MI) · Dec 8, 2016

One thing I might add that I haven't seen here is this. When you air it up , do it slowly so it will have time to let the tube move around and any creases , folds have time to slide around and find their "home" so to speak. Too fast and you can trap these with clamping action of air pressure. Not like airing up a tubeless tire where faster the better.

JDBRIDER · Dec 8, 2016

Good Idea. I never thought of that.

CenTex Farmall · Dec 8, 2016

I use talc as well. Great for putting on brand new tubes and inside tires so they're not so tacky.

Ultradog MN · Dec 8, 2016

I also like using talcom powder.
Makes your tube slide around better
Especially on hot summer days.

Alan K · Dec 8, 2016

Good advice. I remember reading years ago in my MM ZAU manual to air the tire up to seat the bead, then deflate it all the way and then air up again to the proper air pressure to "seat" the tube. Ive always done that on all of them I do.

showcrop · Dec 8, 2016

Doesn't sound like you have them dismounted yet. That can be a battle in itself if the tire gets rusted to the rim. If it is rusted on, the tire will not slide off the bead, so you will have to cut the tire body off from the bead with a recip saw, then cut the bead with a cold chisel.

Pete in MD · Dec 8, 2016

Don't know if you're going to dismount the tires with the wheels mounted on the tractor or off the tractor laying on the ground. It's a whole lot easier to do it leaving the wheels mounted on the tractor. You can also use the brake to hold the tire/wheel in whatever position you want it.

BushogPapa · Dec 9, 2016

Beads slip on pretty well also..

On smaller tires, raise and slam the tread to the floor several times, to settle the tube into position..

I check closely before and as I air them up for anything tapped between the Bead and the rim, seldom if ever have any problem..

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