Question for Illinois truck owners

super99

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Looking at buying a pickup and gooseneck trailer for my own use. I don't plan to move out of Illinois, tempting, but I guess I'll stay here, so how other states are is irrelevant. Will a 3/4 ton pickup and gooseneck trailer have to be inspected regularly? Will my ordinary drivers license work or will I have to get a CDL? I talked to a neighbor about it. He said if he loads a tractor and takes off, he needs a CDL but if his wife hooks onto a big horse trailer she doesn't need anything but a regular license. Just wondering what hoops I will have to jump thru. Thanks, Chris
 

No hoop jumping required Chris. The state has printed up a little book for you to answer these questions and many more. You can just stop by your local registry and pick one up. Or if you really prefer the hoops just start trying to figure out from all of the conflicting and curious sounding answers that you will get here what is really correct.
 
I live in southern Illinois. No you don't need to get it inspected. My truck is a single rear wheel F250. And trailer is 15000 gvw. So I am under 26000. I have never pulled into a weigh station. I have buddy's with 24000 trailers and dual wheel ppickups. They don't get theirs inspected either. But if you haul for hire you are just like a 18 wheeler.
 
(quoted from post at 08:43:24 09/03/17) Looking at buying a pickup and gooseneck trailer for my own use. I don't plan to move out of Illinois, tempting, but I guess I'll stay here, so how other states are is irrelevant. Will a 3/4 ton pickup and gooseneck trailer have to be inspected regularly? Will my ordinary drivers license work or will I have to get a CDL? I talked to a neighbor about it. He said if he loads a tractor and takes off, he needs a CDL but if his wife hooks onto a big horse trailer she doesn't need anything but a regular license. Just wondering what hoops I will have to jump thru. Thanks, Chris

Speaking as a retired NYSP DOT Trooper, for goodness sake, go talk to a police officer in YOUR STATE that can answer these questions!!! Find out which local agency does truck enforcement and get your answers there. I can 100% assure you that this is the wrong place to try and get solid info, all good intentions aside. Find the enforcement agency, get the info you need and sections of law that cover you if you can. If a local agency doesn't do trucks, contact your State Police. Do not depend on hearsay on a forum where you'll get answers from well intentioned guys from Idaho, Texas, Vermont and maybe even Canada!
 
A State Tropper stopped at my house and told me I had to have my F250 inspected because Iw as running D plates on it.I also have to have my 30ft. trailer inspected, but don't need a CDL license.
 
Don't know how much the goose necks GVW is, but in ILLINOIS B plates on the trailer or bigger, the trailer will need to be inspected every 6 month.
 
Find your local test lane. They gotta big poster on the wall with all the requirements. At one time any vehicle with a truck was tested but not anymore.
 
The fact is if you run a "B" plate 8000lbs or less no need for inspection.
But you can't haul much before your over weight.

So you need to get a larger plate, D,F,H, etc.
Then you need it inspected twice a year or annually if you have
A DOT number.
Same for trailer weight plates.

You need to figure at least a D plate for the truck and probably
A TE plate for the trailer.
Your going to have to figure your ,truck, trailer and load weights
Before you buy plates and get it right.
Under 24,000 lbs. gross, no need for a CDL.
Tom
 
Get your answers from Illinois if you want the correct answer.

Do I need inspected......
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/drivers/drivers_license/CDL/faq.html

Do I need a safety inspection sticker on my vehicle?
Interstate carriers of property that display a US DOT number are required to be inspected annually. Interstate carriers can choose Illinois Official Testing Stations to meet the annual inspection requirement but they are not required by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration to do so. Interstate carriers of passengers, registered in Illinois, are subject to both the interstate (annual) inspection as well as the intrastate (semi-annual inspection).

Intrastate carriers of both property and passengers (no US DOT number) are required to be inspected every six months at an Illinois Official Testing Station.

Chapter 13 of the Illinois Vehicle Code requires the following vehicles registered in Illinois be inspected every six months and obtain a Certificate of Safety (displayed in the vehicle's windshield, when applicable). (School buses are required to be inspected every six months or 10,000 miles, whichever occurs first.)
?Second division vehicles (i.e., trucks) for a gross weight of more than 8,000 pounds;
?Semitrailers or trailers having a gross weight of more than 5,000 pounds;
?Any second division vehicle that pulls or draws a trailer, semitrailer or pole trailer having a gross weight or registered gross weight of more than 8,000 pounds;
?School buses;
?Religious organization buses;
?Senior citizen transport buses;
?Vehicles designed to transport more than 10 persons, including the driver (i.e., motor buses, including interstate buses);
?Tow trucks;
?Medical transport vehicles;
?Salvaged vehicles;
?Limousines; and
?Contract carriers transporting employees in the course of their employment in a vehicle designed to carry 15 or fewer passengers. (Contract carriers licensed in another state provided the state of registration's testing requirements are less stringent than Illinois' are also included.)

The Illinois Department of Transportation's Division of Traffic Safety establishes inspection procedures and regulates the Official Testing Stations. For more information, call 217-785-1181.


Do I need a CDL......
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/drivers/drivers_license/CDL/cdl.html#classes

Vehicles Requiring a CDL
?Any combination of vehicles with a Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more, providing the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
?Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
?Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
?Any vehicle, regardless of size, required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Drivers Exempt From Obtaining a CDL

Under state and federal law, certain drivers are not subject to the requirements of the CDL program. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration has determined these exemptions will not diminish the safe operation of commercial vehicles on the highways. Although the following vehicle operators are not required to obtain CDLs, they are required to hold the proper driver's license classification for the type of vehicles they are operating.
?Farm Equipment Operators ? The farm operators' exemption is intended to cover legitimate farm-to-market operations by farmers, not commercial grain haulers. ◦ Farm Vehicle Driver-FVD (J50 Restriction) ? If the farmer, his spouse and their children, parents on both sides, brothers and sisters on both sides and their spouses are operating a truck-tractor semi-trailer combination or combinations, they are exempt from the CDL Program as a Farm Vehicle Driver (Non-CDL FVD). However, these drivers must be age 21, they must pass the required CDL written and skills testing and the vehicle must have Farm plates. A J50 restriction is required on a Class A Non-CDL to allow this operation. These drivers must also follow the restrictions listed below.
◦ Covered Farm Vehicle Driver-CFV (J51 Restriction) ? If a farmer, a family member or a farm employee is operating a truck-tractor semi-trailer combination or combinations as a Covered Farm Vehicle, they are exempt from the CDL Program as a Covered Farm Vehicle Driver (Non-CDL CFV). However, these drivers must be age 18, they must pass the required CDL written and skills testing and the vehicle must have Farm plates. A J51 restriction is required on a Class A Non-CDL to allow this operation. Drivers must be 18 to operate intrastate and 21 to operate interstate under this restriction. These drivers must also follow the other restrictions listed below.
◦ Farm Equipment Operator vehicle operation restrictions: ◾Controlled and operated by a farmer, a member of the farmer's family or a farm employee; and
Note: Employees are permitted to operate any CFV and other waived Class A or B vehicles, with the exception of operating as a FVD as noted above.
◾ Used to transport farm products, equipment, supplies or a combination thereof to or from a farm (including nurseries and aquacultures); and
◾Used within 150 air miles of the person's farm and/or if a Covered Farm Vehicle (CFV) anywhere within the registered State; and
◾Not used in the operations of a common or contract motor carrier; and
◾Used in nursery or agricultural operations.

Note: For any Farm Equipment Operator to operate a truck-tractor semi-trailer combination they must possess either a Class A Non-CDL with a J50 or J51 restriction (as noted above) or a Class A CDL without an O restriction.
?Emergency Equipment Operators ? Because emergency organizations have extensive initial training and re-training requirements for their equipment operators, Illinois waives CDL requirements for operators of emergency equipment operated for a government agency. The emergency equipment must have audible and visual signals. The exemption applies when the equipment is being used in the execution of functions for the preservation of life or property.
?Recreational Vehicle Operators ? Illinois waives CDL requirements for drivers of a recreational vehicle operated as family/personal conveyance for recreational purposes. This includes motor homes, travel trailers and other recreational vehicles. Recreational vehicles being operated in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise are NOT exempt (Ex: Teams with sponsorships, Individuals or groups participating in shows/festivals where business is being conducted and other similar activities).
?Military Vehicle Operators ? U.S. Department of Defense military vehicles being driven by non-civilian personnel for military purposes are exempt from CDL requirements. This includes any driver on active military duty, members of the Reserves, National Guard, personnel on part-time training and National Guard military technicians. This exemption does not apply to civilian employees operating equipment within military installations.
?Township Employees ? An employee of a township or road district with a population of less than 3,000, driving a vehicle within the boundaries of the township or road district for the purpose of removing snow or ice from a roadway by plowing, sanding or salting, is waived from CDL requirements. This exemption is allowed providing that the employee who ordinarily operates the vehicle and holds a properly classified CDL is unable to operate the vehicle or is in need of additional assistance due to a snow emergency.

A holder of a Non-CDL class A and B license is permitted to operate the appropriate vehicles within the exempted uses above and other non-commercial vehicles at their class level or below.


I read that page 3 times. No where did I see No CDL for horse trailers.
 
Never stop at a scale house and you will never be checked,I did not say you were legal. They are just not going to mess with a private owner.
 
If your trailer is a bumper hitch and under 26K combo you are free. If the trailer is a GN, it is a combination vechile and you need CDL if you go out of state but in state you can get by with a J50. Testing is a gray area that is not enforced real strictly.
 
Talked with IL Drivers office about 5th wheel I purchased and need repairs to make it road worthy. If I license it for over 10,000 lbs must have CDL. To get CDL test completed must take drivers test in vehicle larger than my dually truck with said 5th wheel attached. That means a full blown semi. Therefore must also have air brake indorsement. Good ole IL thinking.
 
(quoted from post at 06:25:07 09/03/17)
(quoted from post at 08:43:24 09/03/17) Looking at buying a pickup and gooseneck trailer for my own use. I don't plan to move out of Illinois, tempting, but I guess I'll stay here, so how other states are is irrelevant. Will a 3/4 ton pickup and gooseneck trailer have to be inspected regularly? Will my ordinary drivers license work or will I have to get a CDL? I talked to a neighbor about it. He said if he loads a tractor and takes off, he needs a CDL but if his wife hooks onto a big horse trailer she doesn't need anything but a regular license. Just wondering what hoops I will have to jump thru. Thanks, Chris

Speaking as a retired NYSP DOT Trooper, for goodness sake, go talk to a police officer in YOUR STATE that can answer these questions!!! Find out which local agency does truck enforcement and get your answers there. I can 100% assure you that this is the wrong place to try and get solid info, all good intentions aside. Find the enforcement agency, get the info you need and sections of law that cover you if you can. If a local agency doesn't do trucks, contact your State Police. Do not depend on hearsay on a forum where you'll get answers from well intentioned guys from Idaho, Texas, Vermont and maybe even Canada!

Well Brett we get proven right again. Maybe if we keep the campaign up for five years it will start to turn around,LOL.
 

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