Advantages of the Modern View ???

Crazy Horse

Well-known Member
I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here and we've had lots of discussion below with my other post regarding being "puzzled" with some postings that show up in certain ways ..... but I have a question.

One advantage of the Modern View seems to be a more up-to-date postings of late replies to certain posts (I think that's what people are saying happens). OK, I get that but in reality, that only applies to Tractor Talk in my opinion. Most of the other forums don't move nearly as quickly and that feature would hardly ever apply.

So other than that one advantage, what exactly are the other advantages of the Modern View as compared to Classic ???
 
To me classic view looks like a un-organized mess, if the topic on top has 50 replies you have scroll past all those to get to the next one. In modern view topics you are interested in is so much easier to find IMO.
 
[b:5a0ec2daa4]I agree; couldn't have worded it better.

That said, there are times when I will switch to Classic, but ONLY so I can see who a particular post replied to. That doesn't always work, as any of us can reply by clicking on the Reply box from ANY of the other posts. ...Maybe that's why when I hit Reply, there is automatically info there showing what post I'm replying to.....again, providing I take the time to click the correct Reply box.

If I click this box (circled), am I replying to [i:5a0ec2daa4]this[/i:5a0ec2daa4] post or another? Can get confusing if there is no specification.......[/b:5a0ec2daa4]
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[b:5a0ec2daa4]......which is why I should probably start leaving this info:[/b:5a0ec2daa4]
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(quoted from post at 10:01:02 11/21/17) I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here and we've had lots of discussion below with my other post regarding being "puzzled" with some postings that show up in certain ways ..... but I have a question.

One advantage of the Modern View seems to be a more up-to-date postings of late replies to certain posts (I think that's what people are saying happens). OK, I get that but in reality, that only applies to Tractor Talk in my opinion. Most of the other forums don't move nearly as quickly and that feature would hardly ever apply.

So other than that one advantage, what exactly are the other advantages of the Modern View as compared to Classic ???

"Only applies to tractor talk" That is because "Tractor Talk" sees a lot more activity than any of the others.
 
I started in Classic view back when I joined in the early 2000?s because at first I could post in
Classic where modern required a sign in. Now I?m just used to it. I have noticed more lately that
items are referred to in a post that are missing then I click Modern and they are there. My main
gripe with Modern is how it is so spread out. With threads spreading onto 2 or 3 pages. I do most
of my viewing here on my iPhone, so to me the page switching to view the entire topic is a pain.
 
Modern View sorts the threads to my liking: in order according to how "the story" plays out. I get confused by Classic view because the recent response is at top, but may be referring to a separate post tangent discussion. Modern has the posts stacking on the bottom which makes it easy to see what is the latest.
some Forums don't allow you to respond to comments but only the entire thread. It behaves more like a linear progression and people have to specify who they are talking to.
I understand both preferences.

I also like the "Profile" link in Modern View. It's an easy quick way to search for posts made by a particular person.
 

I have to switch to classic view to see some posts that you can't see in modern view. Classic, and modern view are like different brands tractors, you like one, but not the other. Not too many forums these days use the "classic view". There is only two different tractor forums I go to, and the other one only has the "classic view" style so I don't go there very often. Too hard to find a certain topic especially an old topic, all the other forums I use are the "modern view" type so that's what I'm most used to.
 
I agree Dan, I like having the posts in order from earliest to latest. Otherwise it gets confusing when it's a problem solving thread. I also like having new post come to the top. One thing I do like about Classic is posting pics, I haven't figured out how to post pics in Modern yet. Another feature I like about Modern is you can see when a person joined the site and how many posts they have.

I think it is very nice of the site owners to operate both Classic and Modern to accommodate different preferences. When a forum switches software you'd be surprised at how many people leave because of the new design.
 
(quoted from post at 11:01:51 11/21/17) [b:d0ddf85b72]I agree; couldn't have worded it better.

That said, there are times when I will switch to Classic, but ONLY so I can see who a particular post replied to. That doesn't always work, as any of us can reply by clicking on the Reply box from ANY of the other posts. ...Maybe that's why when I hit Reply, there is automatically info there showing what post I'm replying to.....again, providing I take the time to click the correct Reply box.

If I click this box (circled), am I replying to [i:d0ddf85b72]this[/i:d0ddf85b72] post or another? Can get confusing if there is no specification.......[/b:d0ddf85b72]
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[b:d0ddf85b72]......which is why I should probably start leaving this info:[/b:d0ddf85b72]
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Just as a test I didn't delete this before posting while in modern view where it says quote
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But my reply didn't show up in classic view
 
Interesting, I left the "quote" like this while posting in modern view
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but the quote didn't show up in classic view. It said to see quote in modern view.
 
That's the trouble with modern right there. If somebody replies to a reply instead of the original post in classic,you can tell immediately before you even open it. When somebody replies in modern to a post that was posted in classic,it comes up with that screwy thing and you don't know who they're even talking to unless you go to all the trouble of going to modern to see. I usually don't care enough to even go look.
 
As someone who's 29 and spent a fair amount of time on online forums, I have to chuckle at the "modern" label. This layout is 15+ years old, and cumbersome to use. The classic view is nothing more than disorganized chaos, and I'm not sure how anybody can make sense of it at all.

Don't get me wrong, the content and people here seem great, and I thoroughly enjoy reading the stories and advice from others.
 
(quoted from post at 15:46:08 11/21/17) That's the trouble with modern right there. If somebody replies to a reply instead of the original post in classic,you can tell immediately before you even open it. When somebody replies in modern to a post that was posted in classic,it comes up with that screwy thing and you don't know who they're even talking to unless you go to all the trouble of going to modern to see. I usually don't care enough to even go look.
..or is that the "trouble with classic right there"? :roll:
 
(quoted from post at 13:29:57 11/21/17)
(quoted from post at 15:46:08 11/21/17) That's the trouble with modern right there. If somebody replies to a reply instead of the original post in classic,you can tell immediately before you even open it. When somebody replies in modern to a post that was posted in classic,it comes up with that screwy thing and you don't know who they're even talking to unless you go to all the trouble of going to modern to see. I usually don't care enough to even go look.
..or is that the "trouble with classic right there"? :roll:

This is what happens when you try to please everyone....you end up pleasing no one...
 
(quoted from post at 12:46:08 11/21/17) That's the trouble with modern right there. If somebody replies to a reply instead of the original post in classic,you can tell immediately before you even open it. When somebody replies in modern to a post that was posted in classic,it comes up with that screwy thing and you don't know who they're even talking to unless you go to all the trouble of going to modern to see. I usually don't care enough to even go look.

In "modern", if you want to reply to a specific reply, and not the entire thread, you use the "quote" feature. Just like I did here.
 
(quoted from post at 14:46:08 11/21/17) That's the trouble with modern right there. If somebody replies to a reply instead of the original post in classic,you can tell immediately before you even open it. When somebody replies in modern to a post that was posted in classic,it comes up with that screwy thing and you don't know who they're even talking to unless you go to all the trouble of going to modern to see. I usually don't care enough to even go look.
The reason for that is because the two systems are running simultaneously and neither one is designed for that.
To reply to a particular post in modern view, all you have to do is click the "quote" icon (which I just did). Or address your comments to the specific individual.
Otherwise, the conversation follows along in perfect order. Plus, the threads with activity on them remain near the top on page 1. No need to go searching for them to see if you got a reply.
 
I wonder how long ago I found this site, been very happy with the classic view that I've pretty much always viewed this place in. Over a decade, maybe getting near 2?

Kudos to the site administrators to make things work as smoothly as they do.

I have never been a fan of 'bubble up' type of forums, as they keep the controversial topics near the top, never leaving room for smoothing new or a 'smaller' question to ever be seen as they roll off the bottom pretty fast. But that is just me, I can get along with a lot of different things and views and I know others prefer it the other way.

I feel slightly uncomfortable in the 'modern' view as things just do not seem handy to me. I don't see any advantages to that way.

Paul
 
"(posted in classic view)."

See now,I knew you replied to me just by looking at the thread without even opening it. LOL
 
(quoted from post at 14:33:24 11/21/17) I wonder how long ago I found this site, been very happy with the classic view that I've pretty much always viewed this place in. Over a decade, maybe getting near 2?

Kudos to the site administrators to make things work as smoothly as they do.

I have never been a fan of 'bubble up' type of forums, as they keep the controversial topics near the top, never leaving room for smoothing new or a 'smaller' question to ever be seen as they roll off the bottom pretty fast. But that is just me, I can get along with a lot of different things and views and I know others prefer it the other way.

I feel slightly uncomfortable in the 'modern' view as things just do not seem handy to me. I don't see any advantages to that way.

Paul

Paul, I see you joined Dec 25 1997. According to the member list you were the first one on the site after Chris and Kim. Kinda interesting......
 
(quoted from post at 11:48:57 11/21/17) Advantages? Does it matter? Use the one you like.

JMOR< some people prefer to gather information before deciding what they think that they will like.
 

Like that I can sign in to modern view and click on a button and go instantly to those threads that I am interested in. Then after perusing those I may or may not go to those individual forums that I normally view, and see instantly which ones Have more posts added to them since the last time I checked. I like also that everything that I am interested in is on the first page of each forum.
 
When I see Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see and when you do that there is nothing there that is what makes me mad and I will not try to follow it any more. If there was something there it would not be as bad.
 
Yaidunno, You have that exactly backword. If people would post as they should on classic there would be no problem If you are posting a reply to a previous poster you are supposed to click on reply and not to the orignal poster. I have noticed that even Cris that runs things does that and makes it confusing. If people would just look at read and follow things as was orignaly designed we would not be having this problem.
 
The site says I joined Jan 9, 98 but I was on longer When they anounced you could register I was just a few days late getting that done. If you were not registered before that time you were just using any name anybody else could use as well and was happening. I actually got on here in about August of 97 or it might have been 96 as I think it was. So this site has been here for over 20 years. And before somebody decided they needed a newer system we had no problems like we do now. They were going to drop classic once they got modern up but there were enough of us that hated modern that we told them we were going to leave the site if they did that and they lisened to us.
 
rrlund, When using modern view you can put the users name if you want to reply to a certain individual (see what I did there). But I see what you mean when positing in classic view, but I think if you don't read all the replies you may miss some good information on the topic (posted in classic view).
 
what I've seen with so called upgrades, better versions ect. is that about the time I get use to using a program it has to be changed and most of the time instead of going from point A to B you now have to start at A go E then C before getting to B there is little if any improvement to it, most of the time it boils down to someone is trying to keep or create a job, case in point windows programs
 
(quoted from post at 18:24:09 11/21/17) what I've seen with so called upgrades, better versions ect. is that about the time I get use to using a program it has to be changed and most of the time instead of going from point A to B you now have to start at A go E then C before getting to B there is little if any improvement to it, most of the time it boils down to someone is trying to keep or create a job, case in point windows programs

GBS, what I like about modern view compared to classic is how quickly I can go to what interests me or what I haven't looked at before, or the threads that have new posts since the last time I looked.
 
I'm curious how you guys can view join date, post count, and profile in Classic? I used to use Classic because that's what comes up when you google the site. When I fond Modern view I started using it because that's what I'm used to.

If "Modern" view came first when the site started I'm sure it would be the other way around. Whatever comes first is what people are used to I guess.
 
(quoted from post at 23:28:06 11/21/17) I only thing I don't like about Modern view is it needs a Go to First Unread Post button.
One of the other forums I belong to does that automatically if you're logged in. When you click on a thread it automatically goes to where you left off last time. If you click on it a second time during that session it starts from the beginning.
 
You got that right Leroy, lately you see posts where somebody replies to themselves six or eight times. I don't have the patience to try to decipher something like that.
 
(quoted from post at 15:36:55 11/21/17) I post to only classic. I can see when other posters joined and how many posts he/she has made since joining.
Loren

Exactly!!! another reason to use modern.
 
"I'm curious how you guys can view join date, post count, and profile in Classic? " Usually I don't give a flip. Just read a few of their "words of wisdom" and that tells me what I need
to know about the source.
 
The classic view forum software was made for back when computers, and internet connections were slow so it could load "faster". Modern view has a lot more stuff in it (join date, post count, a lot more graphics, and other things. With the newer computers, and much faster internet connections you don't have to wait for it load like you used to. With the computer I have, and fiber optic cable internet connection I can call a dealer looking for a part. If the parts guy has to look up the part number, I can start looking for the part number at the same time as the parts guy, and I usually find it before the parts guy can with their computer system. While I don't have the time to look at each section here, but when I am looking in the sections I look at the most, and see that someone is looking for a part number for a part they need I usually look it up, and post the part number.
 
In my 13 years here classic still works fine for me. I still have my flip-phone. Don't subscribe to facebook. Being retired Iam not in a hurry for anything. Some need to just slow down a little.
 

I wonder how pages Classic viewers must scroll back to see these photo's in this post posted by Hendrik from Germany PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Giant tractor show... many many pics!??? This thread was 1st posted on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:04 pm. It was close to the top of the 1st page on Modern view.
 
(quoted from post at 04:26:50 11/23/17)
I wonder how pages Classic viewers must scroll back to see these photo's in this post posted by Hendrik from Germany PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Giant tractor show... many many pics!??? This thread was 1st posted on Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:04 pm. It was close to the top of the 1st page on Modern view.

That reminds me of something else that I noticed a little while ago. When a newbie comes on looking for help, the intelligent thing for him to do is to enter a search, right? Well, when he then makes a post on that thread from two years ago, only the people on modern will see it. When I see this happening I will post back and suggest that he start a new thread, so that everyone will see it. Now it appears that there are a lot more of us on modern, so it is perhaps not so important.
 

It's like this. "Modern" uses the same technology that is being used on nearly ALL websites. You won't find the "classic" technology in use anywhere else, not any more. It has been phased out, and is gone, except for here.

I don't like change anymore than most of you guys, but sometimes you just have to go with flow and step right up to the 21st century. It AIN'T going away, no matter how hard you hang on.
 

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