OT: No Hunting signs

Kirk-NJ

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My 22 Acres butts up to state land and a gun club at the back of my property. Every year for the past five or six years now they have been tearing down the posted signs so if they get catch on my property they can say I didn't see any signs and though it was state property. A couple of years ago I took a 4' ladder and posted them high enough so they couldn't reach them. Well that didn't work cause they ripped them down anyway. So last year I came up with this plan. Take a five gallon bucket and cut out the words no hunting keep off and spray paint it on the trees along the back of my property. I went out yesterday to check on things and It worked like a charm. Not only was the painted trees still looking good and the posted signs I had up were not ripped down. No more buying signs just a couple of cheap cans of spray paint.

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In Pa, not knowing is not an excuse, they have to have permission from the land owner to hunt on the land, and they have to know the property owner where they are standing. If not, they can be arrested for trespassing, although it never happens in my experience.
 
I have the same problem. My woods butts up to land that is leased out, and everyear some a hole is wondering around on my land. One year they had 3 stands on the fence line facing a clearing on my side . They would yell at me as I rode my 4 wheeler so I got so tannerite and shot it of in the clearing so no way a deer would come this way for a long time.
 
Don't need the signs in wisconsin anymore, they changed the law awhile back so people can be cited without any signs up.
 
Good Idea!!!! Sound like your deer hunters are like the ones around here. All spices and nice on these forums but like to tear up property they do not own or have permission to hunt on. I quit allowing any hunting on my land ten years ago after having my fences cut and gates left open one too many times.

Padlocks and chains on all gates. Signs posted and game cameras hidden. All of this has really slowed them down. I now have more trouble with guys sneaking in to fish in my one pond. They look up ponds on Google and then walk into them away from any buildings. I have spent thousands of dollars stocking the pond just for idiots to sneak in and catch my fish.

I have a real low opinion of the majority of hunters and fisherman around here.
 
ohio is written permission only, don't need the signs,..but they sure do ruin it for the honest sportsmen
 
Really, the signs are not there to keep them off, they're there to protect you if someone does happen to shoot themselves in the foot, or falls and breaks a hip, while hunting on your land.
 
I've used plywood for backer plates and extra screws so that if someone grabs one, they will know it. Also put them up out of reach. Squirrels did more damage! Next ones will be metal. Likely people from the state land, unless the gun club members are also unruly. You probably could or have spoken to the gun club higher ups, but the state land, even if you were to speak to someone, always a different crowd on state land pushing the borders. I've hunted state land before, like it better on my own land. I forget what part of NJ you are in, I lived off RT 23 at one point, '92 if I recall, knew the area of north jersey well.

I had someone do that here not all that long ago. Someone I knew, seemingly playing stupid, thought it was part a small tract of land that he had permission to be on. But, there was a stand and he was in it. We just razzed him a bit, saw him at a local place when getting a take out order, he was apologetic and I think either being caught or he did think it was ok.

At least it was someone I knew and it really was no big deal. It was after someone stole that stand and a bunch of others on surrounding lands, but that had nothing to do with him. Seems the situation here is improved, newer surrounding land owners of fields have been sold from larger tracts, do not want houses or neighbors and keep trespassers out. It used to be a free for all and there was always at least one jerk in the crowd. Never knew from year to year what to expect, now it's quiet and rare to encounter a stranger or trespasser. Sure seems to be a lot more enjoyable this way.
 

NYS has laws outlining exactly what constitutes a legal sign, how far apart they can be, etc. I imagine some other states have a similar set of rules.

It always amazes me the number of people who think I bought and paid for this farm and continue to pay the taxes so that a bunch of townies can hunt it, ride their snowmobiles or ATVs on it, grow their pot, etc. People have ZERO respect for private property anymore.
 
I don't know if it's still that way or not,but at one time here in Michigan,signs had to be on their own post at a certain height,a certain distance apart and of a certain size to be legal. In other words,you couldn't hang some little two inch by two inch sign 20 feet up in a tree and say it was posted.
 
Years ago we were Prairie Farmer members and they gave us no trespassing signs and we also put up no hunting signs. Most of the signs were shot full of holes the first season they were put up.
 
I put no trespassing sign up to in an attempt to lessen the ATV and dirt bikers using my fields. One was run over in two days. None lasted more than a couple of weeks.
 
(quoted from post at 07:01:30 11/22/17)

It always amazes me the number of people who think I bought and paid for this farm and continue to pay the taxes so that a bunch of townies can hunt it, ride their snowmobiles or ATVs on it, grow their pot, etc. People have ZERO respect for private property anymore.

Bret, anymore? Trespassing has been a problem for decades. IN fact here it's less of a problem today than it was say 40 years ago.

Rick
 
If you are not a hunter yourself then buy the strongest perfumed laundry soap you can find and dump it all over the place just before hunting starts. Empty your bladder a few times also. That should keep the deer off your property. Let them sit in the woods and not see a thing. Maybe they won't come back if they don't see any deer.
 
In Ohio sheriff says you don't need them, judge says yes you do. If you do not have they have every right to be on your property. Bacically they have the right to come in your house at any time it is not locked.
 
That's a neat idea and it looks good!

When you nail a sign to a tree, you have to use the longest nail you can find and only drive it just enough to hold. A tree will grow enough in one year to pop the sign loose if you nail it tight.
 
My take is, if you don't know who's property it is, stay the hell off of it. People get shot for less, I have ran off many off my place, they start with the excuse, I stop them and say, well you sure as hell don't know who owns it, get the hell off.
 
Tough to be a honest hunter anymore.. You seem to get tagged as aa<<<<<<< hole as soon as you put on a blaze orange hat.
 
I once had a neighbor who would run rampant all over my timber with a four wheeler without asking permission. He even mowed trails with a mower on a garden tractor. And he was a Deputy Sheriff. He finally saw the light when I was elected County Commissioner and was technically his boss's boss. His wife was a nutcase, too.

Thankfully, they moved out last spring and our new neighbors are the nicest young couple you'd ever hope to meet.
 
Good idea for a template. Trouble with no tresspassing signs is they keep good people out while nether-region-holes ignore them. When I took over our farm we were over run with strangers hunting on our land. My solution was to give permission to a select few. They drove out the bums and police it for me. I came out the nice guy and get plenty of venison every year.
 
Don't you wish you could arm the deer so they could shoot back at those idiots? Sounds good to me.
 
I let people who ask hunt. Neighbor does not. I print a pic from Google Earth of my farm, draw the boundaries and print the name of adjacent owners on their side of the line. I write permission on the back for that Hunter. If the neighbors catch them over the line....no excuses.
 
I've got a few of those around. My favorite was when I was taking some brush up to a pile I was going to light. There was an old man driving his pickup around my hay field on top of the hill. I met up with him and ask him what he was doing. "I'm hunting mushroom and you better not be here to hunt any. I've been coming here for 20 years to hunt mushrooms".

"Really?" I says. "Who was the landowner?"

Well, he couldn't really remember but it was a nice old guy about my height (I'm 6'4").

"Wrong. He was short, fat, and as mean as a cornered snake (whom I knew years ago before buying the land)."

Then I asked if he had ask permission of the current owner.

"Well yes, he's the nephew of the old man and he said I could have all I want."

"No" I said. "I'm the owner. If you had asked me I would have told you that you were an old fool because you don't know where to look on this farm for good mushrooms. And I would have told you that you were stupid because you are driving on my hayfield and ruining my hay crop. And I would have said that you are about to be a jailbird for trespassing and damage to crop. That's what the so-called-nephew would have said. Now get off the property that I PURCHASED through blood sweat and tears and don't come back. Not even if you want to be buried here."

I had a neighbor I used to rent ground from (a true city idiot) that ran all over my hillside with his four wheeler. I overlooked it as he wasn't really damaging crop and I rented from him. When he fired me to go with the BTO that ended up shafting him I decided to put a stop to that. Brush piles suddenly appeared everywhere he could get that four wheeler through the property line. He doesn't have anything big enough to move the forty foot trees that are at the bottom of each pile. That stopped that.
 
Amen to that.I own some land that butts up against the state park. Mushroom season it's a full-time job to keep people out and you still can't do it Unless you sleep there. That said I've been a hundred most of my life I tend to like small game.I don't have a lot of land as well suited for that so I've always Used other people's property.I have never once in my life intentionally cross the property lineInto somewhere I did not have permission. It's very agitating to have people acting like the way that you guys are talking about giving a bad name to the rest of us.
 
I have had hunters ( out of big city) try to tell me its not my property but change their mind if you are carrying. I never confront hunters without having somebody with me.
 
[i:654c4848f0]I've been a hundred most of my life [/i:654c4848f0]

Some days it sure feels like it. It's not the years, it's the miles.
 
Brother got a call a couple weeks ago about 4 in the afternoon when he was combining. Apparently two hunters had both called the cops telling the other they had no right to be there. The cops called my brother since he actually owned the property. Only one person had permission to hunt there and it wasn't either one of the two that had called the cops. My brother told them to arrest them both for trespassing. Instead the cop told them both to go home. Brother was ticked the cop didn't arrest the two armed poachers but then there wasn't any money it for the county (not like it was a DUI) so why should they enforce the law.
 
I pheasant hunt in North Kansas and do not hunt during deer season or opening day. I have gone to great lengths to find owners to get permission but there are so many out of state owners it is very difficult to locate them. After 30 years I have determined that if there is not a new and prominent "posted" sign or if there are cows on the stubble likely to be spooked I will hunt on property away from houses. I have had tenant farmers ask if I had permission but I have never had an owner stop me. The farmers simply don't care about pheasant hunting but they do not want people to hunt deer without permission. Of course you can't drive on the fields or damage fences etc. I own a farm in Georgia and it is constantly hunted on but I don't make a fuss other than to ask them to leave. Not everyone sees it this way but experience seems to prove this out.
 
(quoted from post at 13:39:40 11/22/17) Brother got a call a couple weeks ago about 4 in the afternoon when he was combining. Apparently two hunters had both called the cops telling the other they had no right to be there. The cops called my brother since he actually owned the property. Only one person had permission to hunt there and it wasn't either one of the two that had called the cops. My brother told them to arrest them both for trespassing. Instead the cop told them both to go home. Brother was ticked the cop didn't arrest the two armed poachers but then there wasn't any money it for the county (not like it was a DUI) so why should they enforce the law.

Could be the cop knows a little bit about his job.
 
That's a good idea there. We own some woodlands and know how it is to keep people out. I don't mind hunters if they ask first as we let a couple of them hunt. I'm an avid coonhunter with a hound. I've been in some sticky situations when my dog treed in a woods I didn't turn loose in. Most people around here understand and don't care if you go get your dog. But some do and I'm still going to get my dog anyway.
 
(quoted from post at 17:18:10 11/22/17) That's a good idea there. We own some woodlands and know how it is to keep people out. I don't mind hunters if they ask first as we let a couple of them hunt. I'm an avid coonhunter with a hound. I've been in some sticky situations when my dog treed in a woods I didn't turn loose in. Most people around here understand and don't care if you go get your dog. [b:a3bd7f9e47]But some do and I'm still going to get my dog anyway.[/b:a3bd7f9e47]

A lot of coon hunters feel the same way. So you have the right to trespass? And are bold enough to announce it in advance?

Coon dogs are pretty easy to kill.
 
Tennessee has the purple paint law AND they still have to have written permission. Surrounded on two sides by federal wildlife refuge and sure have our share of all kind of folks.
 
They only people we let hunt on our place are the local Amish....only ones we can trust! On our last farm, people would ask the prior owner, and he would give the ok. The worst ones were relatives - they wouldn't ask or say a word - just show up and climb a tree (or whatever). They'd park at the neighbor's house, then walk over. One time, I was out working on fence. I had a BRIGHT ORANGE pickup, and was in the clearing. Next thing I know, a small flock of turkeys came up the hill toward me. Several gun shots later, with shot hitting the truck - and me firing my .45 into the ground - out comes a couple relatives. I chewed them royally, and told them to get out and next time ASK! Glad we are no longer in THAT situation! Our neighbors are WAY better where we are now....
 
Just to let you know which states have the "PURPLE PAINT LAW"
Texas
Illinois
Missouri
North Carolina
Maine
Florida
Idaho
Arkansas
Montana
Arizona
Kansas

The rules differ somewhat from state to state, but I won't hunt if posted by purple paint. The intent is all that's needed.
 

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