aligning clutch with out alignment tool??

mmidlam · Oct 25, 2018

with out using the 2 step alignment tool, how to get the pto spline and main drive spline centered?...just try to center by eye ?

FarrviewSouth · Oct 25, 2018

An alignment tool really doesnt cost that much and
they work so much better than anything else

but.....a wooden dowel that fits snug, then wrapped
with black tape to be the next step size can work
if you are as tight as me :>

Oregon Tractor Jack · Oct 25, 2018

Yup, just use the good old Mark I Eyeball.

OTJ

Jiles · Oct 25, 2018

Depending on what you are working on-----On trucks and autos, I have had someone depress clutch pedal and wiggle transmission (in gear) until input shaft enters flywheel.
This is a redneck way, but works.
I have made many out of wood and that works much better.

Moonlite37 · Oct 25, 2018

I have a lot of old cut off input shafts. I took a torch and cut away excess material. All are in a box wrapped in rags for storage. I doubt ever using them again

Janicholson · Oct 25, 2018

If in a flywheel that is recessed, just make sure the disc is in the center of the recess. if flat flywheel, center it on the wear spots.

Jim

rlp in Co. · Oct 25, 2018

Put the clutch disk in and snug the pressure plate bolts just enough that you can still move the clutch disk. Use calipers (the stick end) and measure from the disk to the edge of the flywheel and adjust the disk. When you get it within a few thousands of an inch, Tighten up the pressure plate bolts. The tyranny shaft will slide right in. This method will get it closer than with a dummy shaft.

JMS/.MN · Oct 25, 2018

A machinist"s rule is a big help.....down to a 32nd.

jeffcat · Oct 25, 2018

There is nothing like that clutch disk that is just a liiiiitle bit off. Maddening as all get out. Extension or breaker bar handles, 3/8 piece of pipe, a cut off piece of tree limb, a few cuss words, you know. Actually saw a guy do this one. Take a bundle of welding rods with a couple of heavy rubber bands holding them together. The bundle needs to be big enough so the clutch plate is tight on the bundle. Slide the middle rods into the pilot bearing. Crazy but he got it lined up.

Steve@Advance · Oct 25, 2018

Dual clutches are (what I consider) impossible without an alignment tool.

With the probability of damaging the clutch, pilot bearing, transmission, or bodily injury, it's just not worth taking the gamble.

Doing it once is bad enough, doing it over....

showcrop · Oct 25, 2018

I have done a few without an alignment tool, using rip in CO's method.

grizz02 · Oct 25, 2018

why even try, waste of time, alignment tools are cheap and readily available

Billy Shafer · Oct 25, 2018

Keep working at it. To save time and your nerves. Go buy the tool.

timcasbolt · Oct 25, 2018

They usually put one of those cheap, plastic tools in the clutch kit. Works good enough.

hd6gtom · Oct 25, 2018

On single disk clutckes, liNE up the edge of the disk with the edge of the pressure plate. 999 times out of a thousand the tranny will slip right in. Double disk are tougher.

oldhousehugger · Oct 27, 2018

All of the ideas above work. I have gone one step further to aid with inserting the input shafts into the two stage clutch. I took the angle grinder and cutoff disc and carefully streamlined the leading edges of the spines on the input shafts of the transmission of the Massey MFD35 I just finished. It has live PTO and a 2 stage clutch. To line up the clutch plates I turned a piece of scrap hardwood on the lathe to fit the inside ID of the two clutch splines and the pilot shaft. It worked quite nicely. Nobody said it had to be a spline to make it work. With the streamlining to help guide all the parts together it assembled easily by myself.
I put a pipe wrench on the PTO and jacked up one rear wheel and with a little wiggling the front and back met happily. Your results may vary.

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