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john in la
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How you guys justify these 1 tons is beyond me.
I can get about that MPG with my single axle semi pulling two 28 foot loaded trailers.
I can get about that MPG with my single axle semi pulling two 28 foot loaded trailers.
rustyfarmall
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Some of us need more than a 3/4 ton can deliver, but we still need to have something that will run an errand to the store. Can't do that with a semi, but if towing a trailer was all I did, a semi makes a whole lot more sense.
Aint't that just great!!! ALL those wonderful improvements over the last 55 years of driving pickups, and nothing has changed except for the creature "comfort" issues. Our 2011 F250 gets that mileage too and it rides worse than any pickup I've had in 30 years, plus, it doesn't have enough guts to get out of it's own way. No wonder it is driven less than 5000 miles per year. And, I understand all the others aren't any better. Progress sucks.
jon f mn
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You don't say what year or engine, but my 05 with a V-10 would get more like 11 or 12 on that trip at 75mph. It would get that milage with a full load. That is here tho, you are in the mountains, so that might change it some. I justify it because I occasionally pull loads like this, and don't put many other miles on it.
Traditional Farmer
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I like Fords but don't want one of their automatic transmissions in a truck to pull a load,find a 6 speed.
john in la
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I can understand that rusty.
I guess what I do not understand is how they can build a semi that gets 8mpg and can not build a 1 ton that gets better than 9 mpg.
I think it might have something to do with the public wants a 1 ton that will go from 0 to 60 in seconds and pull a 6% grade at 75 mph.
I guess what I do not understand is how they can build a semi that gets 8mpg and can not build a 1 ton that gets better than 9 mpg.
I think it might have something to do with the public wants a 1 ton that will go from 0 to 60 in seconds and pull a 6% grade at 75 mph.
timcasbolt
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I'd have guessed at least 10 or 12. Didn't know they were that bad.
I don't know about all models, but this '16 F150 w/2.7 eco boost got 23.9 Mpg on a trip to Kentucky, varied a little, but overall, good Mpg for a 1/2 ton truck. Good for a daily driver, and when used as a truck, pulls a small 12' trailer well. Coworker has a F250, 8 years old I think, mileage like mentioned above and ride is a lot different than my 150. I can't imagine driving 3/4 or 1 ton trucks like I drive mine daily just to work and back. I'm thankful this truck is affordable to drive whenever, could use a heavier truck, but in that case, I'd go for a medium/class 3 single axle, a lot more bang for the buck.
Dune Country
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Iv'e got a '99 F250 super duty camper special with a tow pkg. 7.3 PS, 237,000mi.
Just filled up and hand checked 16.5mpg. Been around there since new. 10-12 loaded.
Just filled up and hand checked 16.5mpg. Been around there since new. 10-12 loaded.
Wow, I couldn't afford the gas for that thing if it wasn't paying me back with every mile.
. My service truck is a '95 model, FL106 Freightliner. It has an 8.7 Liter Series 50 Detroit backed with an MD3060P Allison automatic. I weigh in around 33K all the time. My quarterly average tends to be between 5-6 MPG, but if I get enough highway miles to where I'm riding in 6th gear alot ((a second overdrive)) I've gotten as much as 9.5 MPG out of it. How a more modern one ton can't get far better mileage than you're getting is beyond me.
. My service truck is a '95 model, FL106 Freightliner. It has an 8.7 Liter Series 50 Detroit backed with an MD3060P Allison automatic. I weigh in around 33K all the time. My quarterly average tends to be between 5-6 MPG, but if I get enough highway miles to where I'm riding in 6th gear alot ((a second overdrive)) I've gotten as much as 9.5 MPG out of it. How a more modern one ton can't get far better mileage than you're getting is beyond me.
Rex Simpkins
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I checked my 2017 F350 work truck today 6.2 engine 12.7 MPG always between 11.5 and 13.5 regardless of load or speed or what I am pulling.
RobCons
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Sounds like my 1992 crew cab f350. It has a 460 with 5 speed manual and gets 8.5 - 9 loaded or empty. I like driving it though.
Kansas4010
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For my use you couldn't give me a diesel pickup. I don't pull huge trailers and I don't pull the ones I got far enough to justify having a diesel. With the emissions control garbage on them now I wouldn't want one. I'll take the biggest gas engine I can get.
At a certain point, wind drag becomes the limiting factor. I have both a semi and aF350. Get about the same mileage pulling the same loads. Interesting thing is the semi gets better pulling the camper, and the F350 does better mileage pulling the gooseneck. Average 8.5 to 9.5. Do tend to drive faster with the semi though.
ditchwitch
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Yeah but you don't have the stability those one tons have. You dont get that sidewall sway out of a one ton. Thats just a awful pull going down the road sawing the steering wheel back and forth
ditchwitch
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I have a 2018 GMC Dually with the Duramax and Allison its actually the Denali. I bought it February 2018 it just turned 94000 miles. I pull a 24 foot Featherlite Enclosed Trailer. I haul exotic cars up and down the east coast. This is about my 5th GMC and out of all of them this thing is a Horse of a truck. Its stock other than the Banks Ram Air. 445 Hp with 910 Foot pounds of torque. Best truck i have ever owned. I run this truck 80 mph and it loves it. steady as a rock going down the highway. My fuel mileage is anywhere between 9 to 13 loaded depending how hard im running . I have driven the new ram to New Mexico i wasn't impressed the transmission seemed to never stay locked up it was always shifting drove me crazy. I also work construction hauling and operating heavy equipment and those are the Ford nuts not impressed with the fords either actually never have been. But the 18 GMC when they bumped the HP and torque up its a really impressive truck.
ditchwitch
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I think it would depend on the length of the trailer and the weight . It would have to be 30 or 35 plus all the time for me to switch to a
simi. Now i will say those guys pulling those wedge goose neck wedge trailers with a one ton with 3 or 4 cars should be outlawed on the
highway. Thats just a rolling disaster waiting to happen.
simi. Now i will say those guys pulling those wedge goose neck wedge trailers with a one ton with 3 or 4 cars should be outlawed on the
highway. Thats just a rolling disaster waiting to happen.
Amen to that. I know several people who have bought newer diesel trucks. The first thing they did was have all the emission crap taken off of them. I have yet to hear one of them that didn't pick up HP as well as several MPG.
Like I tell many of my customer when it comes to equipment, where fuel savings are actually seen with the newer engines....It's great you're saving $1000 a year on fuel, but what are you going to do in say 5 years when the warranty expires, and the cost to repair all of the 'fuel saving' technology ((( that only saved you $5,000 ))) costs you $15,000 in hard money, and another $15,000 in lost time?
Like I tell many of my customer when it comes to equipment, where fuel savings are actually seen with the newer engines....It's great you're saving $1000 a year on fuel, but what are you going to do in say 5 years when the warranty expires, and the cost to repair all of the 'fuel saving' technology ((( that only saved you $5,000 ))) costs you $15,000 in hard money, and another $15,000 in lost time?
Until you start factoring in repair bills. We can put about 200K on a gas half ton Ford with the 5.0 Coyote engine with the only engine repair being the water pump - we have 5 that have done it an 4 more approaching it. The F450 with the 6.7 destroyed itself at 100K - nothing was salvageable off the engine and it had to be completely replaced - right at $14,000. The Chevy Duramax before that had the injectors replaced 3 time in 250K miles - basically the cost of replacing a gas engine every time the injectors were replaced.
The F450 averages 6.8 miles per gallon according to the IFTA reports. The 1984 IH "Eagle" semi truck we sold a few years ago averaged 5.5 MPG pulling much much larger loads on the same report.
The F450 averages 6.8 miles per gallon according to the IFTA reports. The 1984 IH "Eagle" semi truck we sold a few years ago averaged 5.5 MPG pulling much much larger loads on the same report.
T in NE
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My dad had a 5 liter, think it was a 2011. Rebuilt the front end, transmission pan rusted through, replaced that and the transmission started acting up a month later, front end needed rebuilt again, and the bed was starting to rust through. Frod dealer didn't want to take it in on trade. Stopped at the dodge dealer on the way home and left with a new 6.4L 2500 with a flatbed for far less than the Ford he was looking at.
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