Bale loaders .

SVcummins · Jul 21, 2019

Has anybody ever see or used either of these

Mutt and Jeff · Jul 21, 2019

seems like a lot of manpower to me
how about using a machine

Tx Jim · Jul 21, 2019

Years back that type hay loader was named Graves & was built in Clinton,Okla. The height of the loader when loading hay was adjustable to layers of hay on truck/trailer by means of a winch.

Traditional Farmer · Jul 21, 2019

I have an old New Holland bale loader similar to the one in the first picture

db4600 · Jul 21, 2019

Yeah, and your just saying that for a friend. Pa and I ran a 10xx NH bale wagon for the last years before he retired and it was a huge labor saver. We had the single bale on unload feature on that model and it was surprising the amount of hay two people could cut , bale, haul, unload, and stack in the barn using Sisal twine.

tomNE · Jul 21, 2019

We used one for quite a few years until the big round baler, took over! worked well.

HuskerLyn · Jul 21, 2019

Have two similar to the top picture and they worked great on Bermudagrass bales. But you must be careful on your turns esp to the side the loader is on. We called them ?pop up loaders?.

jon f mn · Jul 21, 2019

When I worked on the farm in South Carolina we used some like the ones in the top pic. Picked a lot of bales like that that summer.

modirt · Jul 21, 2019

As others have mentioned, top picture is of a pop up bale loader. For loading, eliminates the need for guys on the ground. For unloading no different than most other systems. If stacking in a barn, you could use an elevator to get them into a loft barn. Attaches to a standard 2 ton truck....or even a flat bed wagon.

Bottom picture is of a hay monster. I recently purchased one of those and am in the process of rehabbing it into working condition.

At first glance, the two might look like they would work the same way. They don't. Hay monster picks bales up the same way, but is stacked from the back to the front. Bales ride in a channel or tray down the middle to the rear. Stackers just have to pick them up from the tray, turn them 90 degrees and drop em. One on one side, one on the other. For short hauls, bales are stacked 3 high, plus 2 on top to tie them together. Single load if 3 high is 150 bales. For longer hauls, you can go 4 high plus tie to get you 200 bales.

At the barn, hydraulic motor that runs the chains is reversed, snout elevates to shoot them into the loft or to top of stack. Most come with an extension to allow you to go pretty high up.

Last 2 crews we hired (about 45 years ago), one used the pop up loader. Other used a home built hay monster. The kids on the hay monster would easily lap the guys with the pop up loader.

There were a limited number of commercial hay monsters made. Deweze (like mine), Kent and United Technologies. For every commercial built machine, there were probably 10 that were made in home shops out of school bus and truck frames, with hydraulic parts lifted off combines.

The reason there were not many of them made was they only came out a few years before Vemeer introduced the big round balers, and in our part of the world, it only took about 2 years for all the hay producers to make the switch.

FBH44 · Jul 21, 2019

Couple of young bucks asked me to help buck bales, and I didn't know any better, I agreed. They stood on back of the truck, a third buddy drove, and they asked me to buck all the bales up. I did it, they kept speeding up and speeding up, I was almost running to keep up, managed to keep up until I saw they were all laughing. Man I was pooped. I had a few choice words for them, but it was funny.

4wdtom · Jul 21, 2019

Look up Snowco Bale L

ader and see a "one armed bandit" bale loader that was pulled along side a truck or wagon and generally worked great. Used one on the farm where I worked as a kid. Don't see them anymore. Wish I could find one to fix up and demonstrate/own as a neat old machine. Some of the youtube videos don't show it working too good but I can assure all I have seen one load thousands of 50-60 lbs. bales with little problem. They can be easily "reconfigured" to tow/transport behind a vehicle, at reasonable speeds, between fields.

morgan in ar · Jul 21, 2019

I had a pop up bale loader for a while. It didn't work great on a gooseneck trailer in small and uneven fields. It wouldn't let the trailer turn short enough. Dad and my uncle used one in the 70's, but they had a straight truck like in the picture. I'm sure it would work better on long, straight, flat fields. I just don't have any of those. I use a bale basket now.

notjustair · Jul 21, 2019

The second is a DewEze bale monster made in Harper Kansas. There are still quite a few running around here. A guy that runs hay crews has three running at all times. He was just at my farm to run 2100 bales. They handle roughly 200 bales at a time (think school bus frame). The front handler brings the bales up the channel to the high school kids stacking at the back. When they get to the barn he has another ladder size extension for the front and can run it all in reverse to unload the wagon. They just have an in-line six under there but it takes two radiators to keep them cool. One is down at the engine the other is plumbed into it and is up top on the deck opposite the driver. It has a fan run by a hydraulic motor. Not sure what road speed is but it is like an old truck - four speed and a two speed rear.

RBMI · Jul 21, 2019

I have experience with both. The top one is a Graves bale loader. My dad bought a new one in 1972. It worked good. You could pull the bale off anywhere along the incline or let it go to the top. Used it for 3 years without any problems. They were light, we always chained it to a fence post or something heavy, when not in use. A storm came up one afternoon and pushed it across the field. Fortunately it did not blow over.

The bottom photo is a Kent Mat-Truc, built in Tipton, KS. The farmer I worked for, bought one new in 1975. The first year we put in 60,000+ bales. Probably over half was custom work for other farmers. They were a highly productive machine. This was in east central Kansas. A lot of hay had to travel more miles than was practical with old junky wagons. Kickers were very rare in the region. They were much more efficient than a truck and bale loader and night and day different than stacking on a wagon behind the baler. Ron

gene bender · Jul 21, 2019

we had a Meyers

Oregon Tractor Jack · Jul 21, 2019

I have used a Graves bale loader a couple of times and they work great. We pulled one with a 28' goose neck trailer and it made loading hay a lot easier. You do need larger fields because it is hard to turn left with it attached. The Graves bale loader are still being made. I need a part for the one I used so I looked them up and ordered from them.

OTJ

Joneil · Jul 21, 2019

We didn't have anything nice like that. And the last few years on the farm I did a lot of hay alone. After baling I would go home and get the JD B and a wagon. I would let the tractor go around idle in first gear while I threw bales on and stacked them. I would steer it by kicking the front wheels the way I wanted it to go. At the barn I backed the wagon in and threw the bales as far into the loft as I could.

Naylorbros · Jul 21, 2019

We have a John Deere 990 bale loader. Google it for a picture. We loaded a lot of bales on to a F6 and a F600 for a lot of years. If we had enough help one truck would be in the field while the other was being unloaded. That all ended when I got a 1049 New Holland bale wagon. We now have a 1069 bale wagon. The bale loader is still out on the hill. Going to try and sell it this year. If not sold I will cut it up

pms · Jul 21, 2019

We use this Henry pop up bale loader at least a couple times during hay season.But my New Holland bale wagon is easier on the back!

Paul

Naylorbros · Jul 21, 2019

SV I will make you a heck of a deal on it if you want to drive to Salt Lake to get it

Bruce from Can. · Jul 21, 2019

My uncles farmed in Saskatchewan, and had a AC roto-baler, and a AC baler loader, I believe it was mounted on a AC model CA tractor. Uncle said it was the best hired man they ever had

Kansas4010 · Jul 21, 2019

Many years ago I helped a guy who was friends with my dad. He had something similar to the bottom one. I was little enough I couldn't even lift the bales yet so I had to drag them back from the chute to the guys stacking.

37chief · Jul 21, 2019

Dad used one like the top one. He burrowed it from the neighbor. I was sure glad when it came along. Before that from the ground to the top of the truck bed by hand got old very fast. Towards the end of stacking the bales on the truck, the top guy would use two hooks, hooked into each other to pull up the last few bales. Then we got to handle them again stacking them into the barn. Lots of fun. Stan

SVcummins · Jul 21, 2019

Bruce id love to see that operation

Kansas4010 · Jul 21, 2019

My dad used to use one of those Roto-balers. It's still sitting in the junk pile here along with a parts machine.

SVcummins · Jul 21, 2019

I just may want to take you up on that

Tractorcedric · Jul 21, 2019

I have one like the top picture. A guy had it on his truck headed to the scrapyard and I talked him into unloading it. I use it every year. The neighbor has a couple kids that help him all summer. When they see the wagon and bale loader out in the field he sends the boys over to stack the hay on the wagon. Couple of weeks ago I had it all hooked up and lined up on the first row of bales. Then I went over to visit with another farmer and wound up helping him move some big bales. When I got home about three hours later the hay was all picked up. Wife said the boys came over so she just got on the Super 66 Oliver and drove while the boys loaded. I was sure proud of her!

JMS/.MN · Jul 21, 2019

This is similar to the loader that Dad built around 1960, but it was pulled by a tractor and I stacked on the wagon...AC roto baler bales.. I get a kick out of all the help shown in these pics...I was the lone loader.

in-too-deep · Jul 21, 2019

The second picture has me puzzled. If you have helpers, why the heck wouldn't you just pull a hay rack behind the baler?! Never understood making MORE work.

SVcummins · Jul 21, 2019

Because when you have a lot of hay to bale it?s faster to not have to worry about pulling a wagon and probably the biggest reason out west is we bale mostly at night I can?t hardly find anyone who wants to work all day let alone all night I don?t do that many little bales I have hauled by myself a lot of times

Tx Jim · Jul 22, 2019

(quoted from post at 19:15:29 07/21/19) The second picture has me puzzled. If you have helpers, why the heck wouldn't you just pull a hay rack behind the baler?! Never understood making MORE work.

IIRC the name of bale hauling machine in 2nd photo was Kent. It's built on a frame similar to a 2 ton truck. It handles hay with less stress than a regular hay rack. Powered chain carries bales from ground to the very back of bed. Then when unloading chain reverses front elevator raises up with an extension to place bales higher when stacking in barn. I had a fellow haul hay for me several times with a similar machine.

Naylorbros · Jul 22, 2019

Just let me know. I would be happy to load it on your trailer and day good bye. $0 Need a tin part fixed but you are good at that.

steve in ok · Jul 22, 2019

I've hauled with both. Didn't like the loader as well as a pop up loader but it was far better than nothing. If the loader was set to steep it would sometimes lose a bale off the side. BIL had a bale wagon, you could really move some hay with one of those. Fast in the field and great to unload in the barn with the reversable chain.

Tony S. · Jul 24, 2019

Grew up with one like the first one, except it had a level section at the top. We had a '52 International truck.

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