https://nashville.craigslist.org/grd/d/charlotte-ih-super/6986561460.html Will you guys tell me am I wrong or is this guy asking at least twice what this tractor will bring if not more. We have talked about it before because he has $ 12,000 invested is it worth 12, think not. I just cry for folks like this and it is showing up more each day. Supper A not really rare and who wants one, just so limited in who is going to offer him anything. Just do not see too may Supper As bring over 5 thousand.
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Zachary Hoyt
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I'm more of a Lunch A person myself, they're much rarer and thus worth more. There are also rumors of an experimental Breakfast A, but many people believe that the alleged photos of it were doctored.
Zach
Zach
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Well two things come to mind that come up on here all the time 1)What type tractor to restore,its often suggested here to start with a tractor that is common as dirt.Bad idea in my opinion if you're going to put a lot of time,money and effort into a tractor get a rare one so you can at least get some of your money back. 2)Always here its said you just can't worry about how much you spend since you're going to keep it,you doing it because you love old tractors etc,etc.Real bad idea sooner or later it'll be sold and at a huge loss most times if money isn't figured in to the original restoration work.Been awhile since I've seen a Super A break $1500 BTW
farmerjohn
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Good one! 
Dang now I'm hungry.
It isn't just with tractors. When I ran a motorcycle dealership guys would get mad when I told them what trade in value was on some bike they dumped a bunch of money on adding chrome or some other bells and whistles. If you can't afford to do it because you want to, don't think it is a one for one investment. This paint aint cheap.
It isn't just with tractors. When I ran a motorcycle dealership guys would get mad when I told them what trade in value was on some bike they dumped a bunch of money on adding chrome or some other bells and whistles. If you can't afford to do it because you want to, don't think it is a one for one investment. This paint aint cheap.
Well I have not seen a Super A bring more than $1500-2000 in twenty years. Many sell for the $750-1000 at auctions I go to. The IH 140 is newer and has 540 PTO an they rarely bring over $2500 since tobacco died.
One thing that has always amazed me. These offset tractor when designed to cultivate one row at a time. The whole reason for them to exist. So guys "restore" them without cultivators. Many sets are scrapped. It really is shocking on the rare offsets like the 440 Oliver or Ford 541 tractor. Those cultivators would be about impossible to find. What it has done is make full sets of cultivators be worth more. I have seen the cultivators bring more than a running IH super "A".
One thing that has always amazed me. These offset tractor when designed to cultivate one row at a time. The whole reason for them to exist. So guys "restore" them without cultivators. Many sets are scrapped. It really is shocking on the rare offsets like the 440 Oliver or Ford 541 tractor. Those cultivators would be about impossible to find. What it has done is make full sets of cultivators be worth more. I have seen the cultivators bring more than a running IH super "A".
Steve@Advance
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He's just throwing it out there, hoping someone will bite not knowing the value.
Look on Ebay or Amazon, or any resale site, you'll find ridiculous prices, or outlandish shipping charges. They just put them out there hoping someone that doesn't know the value of the currency, doesn't read the shipping charges, using company money, shopping while impaired, any number of reasons, will buy.
The seller doesn't care, just send the money!
Look on Ebay or Amazon, or any resale site, you'll find ridiculous prices, or outlandish shipping charges. They just put them out there hoping someone that doesn't know the value of the currency, doesn't read the shipping charges, using company money, shopping while impaired, any number of reasons, will buy.
The seller doesn't care, just send the money!
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
I was at an auction back in the Summer near Farmville VA in what used to be tobacco country.They sold 2 140's,a 130 and a 100 all with cultivators no show pieces but started and ran,none of them broke $1000.
Madisonbob
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It would be tough to get much more than $1000 for that tractor in our area. Most all of the common letter series IH and JD have come down in last few years and compared with 5-10 years ago are selling for 50 to 75% less than they were.
Unless you are restoring a family tractor, it makes no sense to restore one of the common ones. If you want one,buy one already restored. Will cost you far less than restoring one. Low production models and muscle tractors, however still bring good money. D-21 Allis, Oliver MFD models, New Generation JD, IH 56 series, 1206s for example. Early model FWD like 7520 JD, Steiger, Oliver and Versatile are going up in value.
I have seen very nicely restored JD Bs and Farmall Hs bring $800 in our area.
Unless you are restoring a family tractor, it makes no sense to restore one of the common ones. If you want one,buy one already restored. Will cost you far less than restoring one. Low production models and muscle tractors, however still bring good money. D-21 Allis, Oliver MFD models, New Generation JD, IH 56 series, 1206s for example. Early model FWD like 7520 JD, Steiger, Oliver and Versatile are going up in value.
I have seen very nicely restored JD Bs and Farmall Hs bring $800 in our area.
K Effective
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Perhaps he's like the owner of the 30 acres north of me- wet, wooded abandoned farm land with no utilities available, asking $390,000.
When the wife asks, he can honestly say "But, Honey, I listed it, but no one bid on it!"
When the wife asks, he can honestly say "But, Honey, I listed it, but no one bid on it!"
Ultradog MN
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They do that with the Ford Ns too.
Run of the mill, stuck, bad tires and rims and they have 8 grand into it before they know it.
Reminds me of the muscle car ads in the want ads in the 70s
"1972 Dodge Charger. Bored, stroked, Isky cam, Edelbrock manifolds, headers, etc, etc.
Over $8000 'invested'.
Sacrifice for $1500."
Ultimately though, if it keeps an old man out of the bars and makes him happy.
A dwi would cost him more than that.
Run of the mill, stuck, bad tires and rims and they have 8 grand into it before they know it.
Reminds me of the muscle car ads in the want ads in the 70s
"1972 Dodge Charger. Bored, stroked, Isky cam, Edelbrock manifolds, headers, etc, etc.
Over $8000 'invested'.
Sacrifice for $1500."
Ultimately though, if it keeps an old man out of the bars and makes him happy.
A dwi would cost him more than that.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Rochester, NY
Well he's asking less than half of what he claims to have invested. The way you were talking I thought he was asking $12,000. He only wants $5375.
That's a lot for a Super A, but if he's legit on what he spent, the tractor should have new tires, a fresh engine, all new bearings, everything sealed up nice...
Your $1500 Super A's have NONE of that.
We tend to turn a blind eye to how much we spend to doll up tractors. I know on the Super H that I did, I'm into it well over $3000, and all I did was put on a 12V system, replaced the radiator with a good used one, put in a new clutch, changed the fluids, new battery box, used tires, paint... and I didn't pay very much for the tractor to begin with. I'd be lucky to get $2000 out of it in a private sale.
That's a lot for a Super A, but if he's legit on what he spent, the tractor should have new tires, a fresh engine, all new bearings, everything sealed up nice...
Your $1500 Super A's have NONE of that.
We tend to turn a blind eye to how much we spend to doll up tractors. I know on the Super H that I did, I'm into it well over $3000, and all I did was put on a 12V system, replaced the radiator with a good used one, put in a new clutch, changed the fluids, new battery box, used tires, paint... and I didn't pay very much for the tractor to begin with. I'd be lucky to get $2000 out of it in a private sale.
Hobo,NC
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- Sanford, NC
If he paid a shop to restore it I can see 12K invested... At $100 @hr. it adds up fast are maybe he thinks his time is worth that much... I do I get it but it does not always pencil out : (
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
What you say is true to a certain extent but the average buyer for a Super A isn't going to work it hard these days and would be just as well off and happy with a well used one with
good paint job.I wouldn't see putting more than a couple thousand$ in one if it was new off the show room floor.
good paint job.I wouldn't see putting more than a couple thousand$ in one if it was new off the show room floor.
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