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OregonAaron

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Hello, I just drug this old set of discs out of the brush and I was wondering if yall could help me if identifying what type they are. There is remnants of green paint on them. Also one wheel has some sort of gearbox on it, but I'm not sure what exactly it does. I'm not very knowledgeable about implements, I raise cattle but dont grow hay. We actually dont have irrigation water rights, so it hasent been much of a possibility. I was hoping to use them to rough up the soil a bit before I seed some ryegrass. Ryegrass does excellent here and I want to improve the forage for our cattle.
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that is a tiller , not a disc. that gear box is what raises and lowers the blades. you have a rope hooked to the rear of your tractor seat from that lever on it. pull the rope and it will drop down. when moving pull it again and it will raise for transport or at the headlands . I used to pull an ih one bigger than that with a w6. if it has green paint it could be a john deere. I still have mine. they do a good job.
 
is not a disc plow, and it was commonly used for working the stubble in after harvest, more so in the era of thrashing machines. a disc plow is a different animal. its called a tiller and later the big ones were called "one ways", and had hydraulic's
 
well ok period man , u and them don't know what they are, and definitely not for pounding over rocks! but you always must be right even if wrong. a disc plow has different blades on it.
 
it's different from what we called a "disc plow" in North Dakota. This has the blades on a common shaft and we NDtens called them a "one-way". What we called a disc plow had each blade on a separate mount and had not nearly as many discs. The true disc plow will go much deeper and pull much harder than a one way or disc tiller. A true 6 blade disc plow would be a heavy load for the old 930 Case. The machine pictured here could be pulled by as someone else said a IH W6 or an M.
 
rustred,

I totally agree with you. Do you agree with how I described the true disc plow in my previous post? I have many hours pulling a 5 blade true disc plow with an 830 Western Case. That was a heavy load!
 
yes I totally agree with your post! people always argue about a disc plow , but it is not the correct name of the implement. I will post the disc plow picture.
 
That is a very nice Case disc plow and appears to be in
exceptionally nice shape. They seem to be more popular in
dry areas where a regular plow might not have gone in the
ground or would wear fast because of the dry soil. It should
work the ground ok, but won't be real smooth when done
because it is a primary tillage tool and not really for finishing. I
suppose you could hold it shallow and get by. You do need to
work in lands like with a moldboard plow and not just back
and forth like a Finnish disc. Sure wish I had that here, as I
said it looks in exceptionally nice shape.
 
Case also made disc plows like that, including later models where the discs would turn back and forth so you could plow back in the same furrow like with a roll over plow. They are both called disc plows, just one is for deeper tillage than the other.
 
Took this pic from the 150 years of Case book, if you can read
it it tells a bit about both types of disc plow discussed here.


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These don't have the lift that yours has but would be similar
otherwise.

Here is a pic of the later model I was talking about that turn
from side to side so you can work back and forth.


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I?ll let the other guys argue over semantics. Commonly called a one way in my neighborhood here on the northern prairies. Mostly used to work
summer fallow ground back in the day.
 
Aaron, yes you can use the "one way" to rough up your ground. It may leave it in shape to seed, depending on your
conditions. They also save moisture over a moldboard plow and/or a tandem disk since the soil is moved only once.
They also leave residue on the surface to help mulch the ground and again save moisture. You can change the "angle of
operation" to make the desired seedbed, in some conditions.

There were "one ways" that had a build on "seeder" that would put seed in/on as you your were operating. Again to
save moisture and time.

My father operated a 10' one way ahead of my immediately following with a 16x10" grain drill planting milo in Kansas. I did that
starting at age 10 and am now 75. To keep this tractor related, dad used the WR9 and I used a 9N or 8N. I have the
WR9 and 8N here in Iowa.
 
Holy guacamole, I wasent trying to start a fight! Anyhow, thanks for all the responses, looks like with a little elbow grease this should do what I want. It has been sitting for alot of years and needs some greasing and whatnot. The extreme angle of the tail wheel seems strange to me. Also all of the different pieces of metal that look scabbed together to make the hitch appear that there is alot of adjustment for the angle that it is towed. I will have to play around with it to get the desired results.
 
The angle of the tail and furrow wheel is to counter the pull of
the blades when working. The adjustments on the hitch are to
get it to pull correctly. I would think that part should be right
unless you are going to go very shallow, then it might need
some adjustment. Hope to see some pics of it in action.
 
I will post some pics when I use it. It may be awhile as I have multiple projects right now and just started a new one. I took thee ole windmill down yesterday (because it was about to fall) and will be rebuilding it since it wore out. Old aermotor model 702.
 
Down here they were called "Surflex" plows and the name was" unique to JD".....(per www question response). Have seen as many as 16 discs in green
attire pulled by a tractor I don't recall but was attired in green also. Heavy clay and moldboards didn't work here due to gumming up. The Surflex solved
these problems for rolling the sod "of the day".
 

I agree with replies that plow in original photo was known as a disk tiller.

JD Surflex disk tiller came in combination of either 5 or 7 disk per gang bolt depending on disk spacing of 8'' or 10''. 20 or 28 disk being the largest model depending on disk spacing.
 
The older Deere manuals just refer to it as a disk tiller, no mention of surflex. Older IH manuals also as a disk tiller. Used to have a JD about 6 foot wide. Pulled with an AR Deere.
 
TX Jim,

Your post of the Surflex shows 8 and 16 ft models. I remember a 21 ft model also used on the northern plains. Did Texas have the 21 ft model? The "R", "80", "820", and "830" with a 21 ft Surflex could really cover the ground and where I grew up, ND, it was very common for fall tillage after the small grain harvest was completed.

Ron
 
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