Narrow Front, Tricycle Tracor With A Snowblower

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

Anyone here ever run a 3 point hitch snowblower on a narrow front tractor? I was just curious is there was any difference between that and a wide front for running a snowblower.

DeltaSteve · Aug 20, 2020

My guess there wont be any difference. Except the narrow front would be more manuverable.

Timmycornpicker · Aug 20, 2020

I have. It's nice to be able to turn
while snowblowing and not get one of the
front wheels wedged in a snow bank.

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

(quoted from post at 08:28:52 08/20/20) I have. It's nice to be able to turn
while snowblowing and not get one of the
front wheels wedged in a snow bank.

I didn't think of that, that's definitely an advantage. In my case the snowblower I have is a modern pull type where you drive forward instead of reverse so it would be a different situation. The front wheels would be going through deep snow driving forward. How did yours do driving forward through deep snow?

DaveBN · Aug 20, 2020

In my experience dual front tires don't go thru snow very well. The snow
clogs up the tires so the won't roll then they try to skid along and
push a pile of snow ahead of them.
You may be able to widen the tires if they are adjustable but that makes
it hard to turn the steering wheel.
Just my experience.
Dave

Bruce from Can. · Aug 20, 2020

Two wheel drive tractors are helpless in the snow
regardless of the front end combination.

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

(quoted from post at 09:49:31 08/20/20) Two wheel drive tractors are helpless in the snow
regardless of the front end combination.

I run duo drip chains with v-bars on my rear tires and haven't had any issues getting stuck with my 9N. My rear tires aren't even loaded either.

SVcummins · Aug 20, 2020

Not really

Bruce from Can. · Aug 20, 2020

World of difference using a snow plow or blade than using a snow blower. With a blade on the front or back you can get up some speed, and momentum will carry you through. A snow blower requires the tractor to creep along at the speed the engine can power the blower while it picks up the snow. Go to fast you will either plug the blower, shear the pin or snuff the tractor engine.

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

(quoted from post at 09:46:58 08/20/20) In my experience dual front tires don't go thru snow very well. The snow
clogs up the tires so the won't roll then they try to skid along and
push a pile of snow ahead of them.
You may be able to widen the tires if they are adjustable but that makes
it hard to turn the steering wheel.
Just my experience.
Dave

That makes sense, thanks.

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

(quoted from post at 12:51:45 08/20/20) World of difference using a snow plow or blade than using a snow blower. With a blade on the front or back you can get up some speed, and momentum will carry you through. A snow blower requires the tractor to creep along at the speed the engine can power the blower while it picks up the snow. Go to fast you will either plug the blower, shear the pin or snuff the tractor engine.

Yes that's the nature of snowblowers vs. plows. It still doesn't mean that two wheel drive tractors are helpless in the snow.

47fivewindow · Aug 20, 2020

I use the tricycle super C to plow snow. Sometimes the snow packs between the two tires enough that they slide instead of rotate. It has excellent brakes so I just use them to steer. Without the brakes it would be more of an issue.

Ultradog MN · Aug 20, 2020

[i:654c4848f0]"Sometimes the snow packs between the two tires enough that they slide instead of rotate."[/i:654c4848f0]

Not all tricycles have that problem.

oliverkid · Aug 20, 2020

We run a 7 foot new idea blower on an Oliver 1800 narrow front. No chains, no fluid, no weights just some plane Jane Firestone SAT’s and never have any issues. Used to run it on a 77 wide front before that with no issues either and just switched for a little more power and comfort. And for part of our driveway and a couple of the neighbors that we keep clean we are pushing up some pretty decent hills. If you need front wheel assist to run a blower you’re doing it wrong.

Bruce from Can. · Aug 20, 2020

No, not doing it wrong, but maybe just more snow and more hills. Once the drive way is packed with ice and snow, and you get a ten inch snow fall, blowing snow up a hill is a pain in the backside. Yes you can fool around trying to blow down hill only, but on a quarter mile lane that fills in every time the wind blows, fooling around gets pretty old by the middle of January. Not saying it cannot be done but , I have more to do with my time

Traditional Farmer · Aug 20, 2020

Thats a Cotton Wheel front.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 20, 2020

We had 28" of snow and I plowed snow and fed cattle all with with 2WD drive tractors.Of course I had Oliver and AC tractors.Weight and 38" rear tires will make them go.Also I have some pretty steep hills to work on.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 20, 2020

Most of us farmers don't have $50 hr jobs to go to when we're not farming so a little extra time ain't a big deal.(LOL)

doublebass73 · Aug 20, 2020

(quoted from post at 15:36:56 08/20/20) We run a 7 foot new idea blower on an Oliver 1800 narrow front. No chains, no fluid, no weights just some plane Jane Firestone SAT s and never have any issues. Used to run it on a 77 wide front before that with no issues either and just switched for a little more power and comfort. And for part of our driveway and a couple of the neighbors that we keep clean we are pushing up some pretty decent hills. If you need front wheel assist to run a blower you re doing it wrong.

Have you had any issues with snow packing between the front tires on either of those Olivers like others have mentioned?

dlbuck · Aug 20, 2020

I lived on my Grandfathers farm in southern Minnesota with a 3/4 mile long driveway. I had a John Deere 4020 with a wide front end
and a snowblower, I never once felt it was helpless. It sure could have had slower reverse when the snow got deep but, it got the job done with minimal problems or stress. Not trying to start a argument but that tractor and blower saved my bacon many times. I was married for five years and single for fifteen years with a few girl friends when I lived there, I never got any pie after cleaning the driveway. LOL.

Bruce from Can. · Aug 20, 2020

I haven’t had a off farm job in 40 years, and when I did it was $3.65 per hour. I had two wheel drive tractors with snow blowers, and two wheel drive loader tractors too, but it’s like television. We all used to watch black and white and thought it was great, now nobody buys a black and white tv. Once you have had colour you never want to go back.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 20, 2020

I have 2 4WD tractors they are OK when need them but I can certainly get things done with my 2WD ones too.I never use the 4WD making hay turning radius and handling isn't nearly as good as 2WD.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 20, 2020

Big difference in that 4020 and the light weight cheap made with lots of plastic tractors being sold these days.

Dieseltech · Aug 20, 2020

This one does a nice job, and is really easy on the neck muscles..

tractorguy2 · Aug 20, 2020

A narrow front tractor will do anything the wide front version can do.

I know two guys that used single fronts with loaders.

paul · Aug 20, 2020

Wouldn’t bother me too much. With a typical rear facing three point blower it should work out all right.

Old farm tractors are weighted well, and with the blower on the back they will have the weight centered on the rear axle so you should be fine.

Dad cleaned out snow on the farm for 20 years with the narrow front H and a trip bucket loader with a dirt plate on the manure forks. I don’t think that was fun or fast,
but it got the job done.

A blower on a narrow front wouldn’t bother me, I would be more concerned to have a live pto and a choice of reverse gears or at least a slow one if only one. Those
would be much more important concerns.

Paul

dlbuck · Aug 20, 2020

I always liked the pounding sound the second stage made when you where really blowing some snow. It has a Hiniker cab which is a must when blowing snow.

ss55 · Aug 21, 2020

Mud packing in between narrow front end wheels is usually a bigger problem than snow, especially after the packed in mud has frozen solid. Most people widen their narrow front wheels as average night time temperatures drop below freezing.

Ken Macfarlane · Aug 21, 2020

I'm assuming you don't get wet snow. Blow all winter when its really cold and never have an issue in 2wd. If its around the freezing mark the 2wd tractors are useless without their ice pick chains on and lots of weight, then you can't go down the road. If the 2wd tractor has a loader on its extra bad in wet stuff.

At times in a big wet dump of snow here 16,000 lbs, 4wd and 120 hp will have a hard time getting the 7 ft blower uphill. Click it out of 4wd and it spins out the foot after the pavement ends.

SVcummins · Aug 21, 2020

I can see that . Would really like to get a snow blower be really nice when 2 feet of snow drops overnight

SVcummins · Aug 21, 2020

Thats a fact

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