Late CRP Payment

super99

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• Oct 19, 2020

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Looks like the payment will be late this year! I got a letter from the local FSA office, Had to sign to certify acres in order to get paid. Never had to before,so I signed it and drove to the office to see a sign on the door that said you have to call and get an appointment to get in.I was standing in the door dialing when one of the gals came and opened the door(I was the only one there) and let me into the entrance. I gave her the papers and said I didn't know I had to certify, never had to before. She said they changed the rules, now you have to certify acres in order to get paid. I usually get a check about now, guess it will be another week or 3 before I get it. Then to top it off, on the way home it started snowing! We got about an inch but it's leaving quickly.

 

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David G

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• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

I just got the letter too.

 

Destroked 450

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Location

Harned, Ky

• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

So what is this CRP payment ?

 

glennster

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• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

conservation reserve program.

 

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jal-SD

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• Oct 19, 2020

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Conservation Reserve Program. ASCS pays farmers to set aside highly erodible land (or marginal wetlands) as grasslands to receive as much, or nearly as much value as the crops that they could received had they had not "set it aside". CRP lands are great for wildlife and are open to public hunting. That is part of the deal the land owner agrees to to get his payments. The landowner can also graze it under certain conditions as well.

 

glennster

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• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

oops

CRP is a land conservation program administered by FSA. In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat.

 

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banjoman09

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• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

Havent seen mine yet either- no letter yet; we get 55-60 around here....use to be half that and have heard of alot more.....anything is good

 

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David G

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• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

Have to fill out and return the letter if want paid.

 

Destroked 450

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Location

Harned, Ky

• Oct 19, 2020

• #1

Ok I remember set a side programs but I though they had phased those out
My non cropable ground is called cow pasture

 

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David G

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• Oct 19, 2020

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I have my highly erodable ground in CRP.

 

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caterpillar guy

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• Oct 20, 2020

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SO if I were to sign up I would have to let every tom dick and harry go hunting with no control. Screw that.

 

MarkB_MI

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Location

Motown USA

• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

It's been many years since we've had any CRP acreage. My guess is the USDA is pushing the 2020 payments into the 2021 fiscal year (which started October 1st) in order to improve their balance sheet. Reminds me of when the military payday was changed from the last day of the month to the first day of the month to shift the payroll into the next fiscal year.

 

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fixerupper

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• Oct 20, 2020

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(quoted from post at 00:47:02 10/20/20) SO if I were to sign up I would have to let every tom dick and harry go hunting with no control. Screw that.

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Enrolling land in CRP does not make it public land. You still have full control on who enters your land.

 

timcasbolt

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• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

(quoted from post at 20:52:41 10/19/20)
So what is this CRP payment ?

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ocialism in action.

 

MarkB_MI

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Location

Motown USA

• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

> Socialism in action.

No, no, no! It's only socialism if SOMEBODY ELSE benefits. If you or I get a windfall, it's called a "business incentive".

 

BarnyardEngineering

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Location

Rochester, NY

• Oct 20, 2020

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(quoted from post at 04:30:07 10/20/20)

(quoted from post at 20:52:41 10/19/20)
So what is this CRP payment ?

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ocialism in action.

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The alternative being, the farmer planting crops on the marginal ground, further adding to the gross overproduction of pretty much every agricultural product known to man. Shooting himself in the foot by driving the prices down even further.

 

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Traditional Farmer

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Location

Virginia

• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

The alternate should be marginal land turned back into grassland that should never have been turned into crop land to start with.Going to be a curious thing to watch when the Gov't Welfare money runs out.

 

BarnyardEngineering

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Location

Rochester, NY

• Oct 20, 2020

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(quoted from post at 05:15:00 10/20/20) The alternate should be marginal land turned back into grassland that should never have been turned into crop land to start with.Going to be a curious thing to watch when the Gov't Welfare money runs out.

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You know full well that a farmer will NEVER do that. If the land is at all productive, they will plant something there unless they're being paid not to. It all goes back to the misguided "do your absolute very best" notion that farmers have.

When the money runs out, the recipients will whine, cry, complain, protest, spread manure on government buildings, etc.. Then they'll go home, plow up the CRP ground, and plant corn or beans.

 

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Traditional Farmer

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Location

Virginia

• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

Unfortunately you are probably right but they won't do it very long before going bankrupt.

 

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David from Kansas

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• Oct 20, 2020

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"CRP lands are great for wildlife and are open to public hunting". Not true, on my case anyway. Have had a small acreage in CRP for many years and I have complete control on who can enter my acreage, with exception of the program administrators. There may be other programs that I am not aware of.

 

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The Famous Grouse

Member

• Oct 20, 2020

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(quoted from post at 06:37:31 10/20/20) > Socialism in action.

No, no, no! It's only socialism if SOMEBODY ELSE benefits. If you or I get a windfall, it's called a "business incentive".

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Exactly.

Then when crop prices are high, you pull the marginal land out of CRP. And rediscover exactly why you had it in CRP in the first place, because you lose money on every acre of it.

Then you whine and complain when you can't get the land back in the program and go back to getting paid to NOT produce anything. Because spending your own money to not produce anything really sucks.

There should be a 10-year penalty box for anyone who pulls land out of CRP if it was eligible for re-enrollment. Pull it out and you have to go 10 years before you can enroll that acerage again.

I just shake my head and laugh at all the geniuses out there who pulled land out of CRP back during the ethanol boom. Yeah, they were going to make a killing farming all those hillsides and low ground spots that had been in CRP. Then they got bad weather and crop prices went down and they lost thier @sses. So they whine about how there's no CRP enrollments available in their county and they're going broke because now they "have to farm" all those tilled up acres of former CRP.

Grouse

 

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wilson ind

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• Oct 20, 2020

• #1

I call it the UNFARMING check

 

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ztrmowers

Member

• Oct 20, 2020

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have had land in crp since its start which is 35 year anniversery this year. have always had to certify acres since day one, got most of mine last week. will be more new crp going in this next spring. and no crp ground DOES NOT become open public ground.

 

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ztrmowers

Member

• Oct 20, 2020

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its land owner choice if he pulls out end. that his mistake if he has not figure out that that lAND IS NOT profitable to farm. you know there
is a penalty if it is pulled out before hand even if the land is in estate auction.

 

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pete 23

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• Oct 20, 2020

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Like another poster said. It is still your land and your call on who can enter for any reason.

A few years ago some guys took it upon themselves to hunt a crp field just a few miles from here and found out real quick that didn't fly.

In Mn we have a program called Walk In Access where the DNR or ASCS pay farmer a little per acre ($10 sometimes) to allow hunters and trappers to go on the crp land. Hunters pay $3 extra on license for this.

Problem is the border marking signs get knocked down and no one puts them back up. Notice to DNR went nowhere. Then some were allowed to mow the crp land for own use or give away during hay shortage so some money went under the table. Know it did on one field.

 

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ztrmowers

Member

• Oct 20, 2020

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first off the crp ground is NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC HUNTING. ALSO CRP GROUND IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE GRAZED,if the grazing option does come open and you choose to do it you will be deducted 35% of the payment that you were signed in for. at least that what it is in my county. you also have to maintain it and do a midterm plan on the acres to keep it in shape for the rules. the ground has to stay clean and in same shape it was before it was enrolled, no brush no trees etc just the natives grasses..

 

BarnyardEngineering

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Location

Rochester, NY

• Oct 20, 2020

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(quoted from post at 05:29:00 10/20/20) Unfortunately you are probably right but they won't do it very long before going bankrupt.

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I dunno. Hasn't happened yet. Been a lot of crying, "The end is nigh," for the last 40 or so years that I've been around but farmers still keep churning out crops.