New starter

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Came today got it put on tonight 4020 starts better than it has since i switched it to 12 volts

Starter drive is broken on the old new starter

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Had to put my harbor freight reamer to work reaming out the holes in the cable ends to fit over the stud on the new starter

made my life easier a long time ago and replaced the hind bolt with a stud sure makes it easier to work on

larry@stinescorner · Nov 10, 2020

Good luck with the new one.The stud on the back is a great idea!The same thing happened to the FORD 2000,the drive chewed up. Sent for a starter drive,,,it lasted one week,,on the second one now.

M-MAN · Nov 10, 2020

Good idea on the stud. That rear bolt was a pain in the rectum. Another trick that may help you out in the future is to use a good appropriate size magnetic pick up tool to start the nut. It works well for small screws and bolts to.

Traditional Farmer · Nov 10, 2020

I've put several of those style starters on my Oliver tractors,surprising how a starter with the motor that small will crank the tractor better than the large
original style starters.Plus they are only about $100.

Butch(OH) · Nov 10, 2020

Month ago I replaced the very similar cast iron starter on our dump truck with one of those lightweight gear reduction jobs, it's a IH with DT466. Try that back bolt from underneath or over the steer tire! LOL

David G · Nov 10, 2020

I found a chevy distributor wrench worked.

wore out · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 04:02:59 11/10/20) Good idea on the stud. That rear bolt was a pain in the rectum. Another trick that may help you out in the future is to use a good appropriate size magnetic pick up tool to start the nut. It works well for small screws and bolts to.

"Good idea on the stud."

AFAIK, the stud should have been there from the factory. Most I've ever dealt with have a stud in that location, and that is what the parts catalog lists.

wore out · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 06:22:56 11/10/20) I found a chevy distributor wrench worked.

A 1/4" drive 9/16" socket with enough extensions to get past the front of the starter solenoid works GREAT.

rusty6 · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 06:29:03 11/10/20)

My 2140 has that stud in place for the hard to reach side of the starter and I believe it is original equipment. I think I am going to have to follow the same idea as my strter is still not working as it should. Needed the battery booster and a shot of ether even a few days ago when the temp was around the freezing point. I know the old 730 Case and Super 90 Massey would have started without that much trouble.

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SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Parts catalog lists three 1 1/8 cap screws

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

I have seen those nut and screw starters always thought they would be nice to have

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Three 3/8 x 1 1/8 cap screws to be exact

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

I use a 1/4 inch drive socket with extensions

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

My 3020 came with one and i have abused the crap out of it. They turn the engine so much easier than the big starters do

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Who ever designed these starters with a bolt that is impossible to get to needs shot this one isn’t that bad

wore out · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 08:57:07 11/10/20) Who ever designed these starters with a bolt that is impossible to get to needs shot this one isn t that bad

I installed a starter on a 6400 with loader mounts yesterday.

Makes a 4020 starter job look like child's play!

wore out · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 08:48:24 11/10/20) Parts catalog lists three 1 1/8 cap screws

INTERESTING! Must be an older/different PC! This is for the early 4020's, the PC for the later 4020'w shows the same thing.

Look at Key #'s 6 and 9, footnote "A" = diesel, "B" and "C" = gasoline and LP.

matthies · Nov 10, 2020

Might as well get the drive for the old one when that new one shells out. Guys have bragged about them, but didn't get much life from them. Don't think about putting one on your 3020, you will be digging the nose cone out from the flywheel housing. chris

grhuck · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 23:35:27 11/09/20) Came today got it put on tonight 4020 starts better than it has since i switched it to 12 volts
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Starter drive is broken on the old new starter

It looks like you traded up from an old Delco to a new permanent magnet Denso starter. No wonder it starts so good.

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

The 3020 came with one on its third year ive got it so hot that i melted the stud into the starter its held up a lot better than this pos i just re replaced on the 4020 which is on its second solenoid and now a starter drive and it was 450$ still no broken nose cone on the gear reduction starter or any major problem

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

That delco has been junk since I bought it .

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

When a loader is involved it is a good time .

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Number 6

wore out · Nov 10, 2020

LOL!

That's silly, the internet and cellphone versions of PC859 disagree!!!

Traditional Farmer · Nov 10, 2020

I've had one on a 1550 Oliver for over 5 years with no issues at all.

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

That’s technology for you

rusty6 · Nov 10, 2020

I just shake my head at some of the low prices quoted on new starters here on the forum. I looked up one for my 2140 on Amazon. AR70436. Its cheap enough at $140 but then there is $122 shipping charges. I'll keep looking locally.

buickanddeere · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 20:18:59 11/10/20) I just shake my head at some of the low prices quoted on new starters here on the forum. I looked up one for my 2140 on Amazon. AR70436. Its cheap enough at $140 but then there is $122 shipping charges. I'll keep looking locally.

Here is what that 2140 needs to wail it over on a cold day . A 4Kw gear reduction starter. Why settle for a scrawny 3Kw starter ?
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I forget ,Did you get around to installing a destroker on that front pump ?

rusty6 · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 17:33:00 11/10/20) That does not look like my 2140 starter. Numbers don't match up to any of my searches. I found one listed at A&I matching the original JD number. Original style Bosch starter at $349 before shipping. Have not checked with JD yet.
I'll concentrate on the starter before doing anything about a destroker. I know the starter is bad.

Robert (ID) · Nov 10, 2020

just put a cough drop paper over the nut then put the nut in the shallow socket... then the nut will stay in the socket..

Poor rednecks have poor ways...

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

And yes im getting a new drive for the delco so when a starter goes bad again I’ll have a spare

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

I have the tool but wasn’t smart enough to use it

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

If people would just raise the loader all the way up before
shutting the tractor off

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Never thought of that. I have used a piece of shop towel or black tape bedore

buickanddeere · Nov 10, 2020

(quoted from post at 21:46:30 11/10/20)

(quoted from post at 17:33:00 11/10/20) That does not look like my 2140 starter. Numbers don't match up to any of my searches. I found one listed at A&I matching the original JD number. Original style Bosch starter at $349 before shipping. Have not checked with JD yet.
I'll concentrate on the starter before doing anything about a destroker. I know the starter is bad.

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Why are you stuck on a factory appearing 3Kw starter instead of 4Kw starter that will improve cold starts ?

rusty6 · Nov 10, 2020

Why are you stuck on a factory appearing 3Kw starter instead of 4Kw starter that will improve cold starts ?

If I have to order in something from far away, maybe from the U.S. I want to be hundred percent sure it will fit. Don't want to have to return something that heavy considering the shipping costs. That one you posted does not look like it will fit my 2140. I've got two mounting bolts and ten tooth gear.

SVcummins · Nov 10, 2020

Just did some searching and I cannot Find much for an
aftermarket starter For a 2140

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