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Where is my neutral switch

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Streb

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I have a 1145 Massey Ferguson and I can not locate the neutral switch. I have no power at the starter, sometimes 6 volts. I'm 90% sure that it is the neutral switch and fear that it is hidden in the transmission case. Does anyone know where it is?
 

I'm not a Massey guy but I kinda doubt it's inside the tranny. Seems like you should be able to find it by following the wires.
 
What type transmission does it have? if it's a gear drive, it's probably screwed into the top cover, somewhere near the shifter.

If it's hydrostat, probably on the linkage somewhere.

There may be multiple switches, seat switch, clutch, PTO... Hard to say without seeing it.
 
Don't know the 1145 but if your Hi-Lo shifter is on the right, look just behind the engine bell housing on top of the tranny (right side). Mine was kind of iffy when I bought it.
 
The Massey Ferguson 1145 is an Iseki built compact utility tractor. I did not find a switch called out as a neutral safety switch, or such, anywhere in the parts book. It appears there is a push type switch located on the dash bulkhead panel that looks like it might contact a shift lever. Maybe check behind the dash panel.

Do you have the operator's and service manuals for it? If not you might want to get them for future reference.

Also you might try asking this on the Massey Ferguson Forum.
 
You say NO POWER at the starter. You should have the battery cable at the starter with battery
voltage. I expect you are saying no power at the call for start wire, or solenoid wire. Make sure
the switch is not clutch pedal controlled under the floorboard.
 
(reply to post at 15:25:38 01/25/21)
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have pulled panels off the dash and there is no neutral switch in the area around the neutral shift lever. The wires are nearly impossible to follow. Thanks
 
(reply to post at 16:26:10 01/25/21)
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It is a manual transmission but I'm sure the neutral switch is not associated with the shift linkage. The tractor will start with both shifter levers in gear, hi/low. There is a forward/reverse lever on the steering column that is associated to the neutral switch. There is not a neutral switch above the floorboards.
 
(quoted from post at 18:30:23 01/25/21) You say NO POWER at the starter. You should have the battery cable at the starter with battery
voltage. I expect you are saying no power at the call for start wire, or solenoid wire. Make sure
the switch is not clutch pedal controlled under the floorboard.
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Correct the solenoid wire from ignition/neutral switch. The clutch linkage goes directly into the bellhousing.
 
(quoted from post at 16:26:10 01/25/21) What type transmission does it have? if it's a gear drive, it's probably screwed into the top cover, somewhere near the shifter.

If it's hydrostat, probably on the linkage somewhere.

There may be multiple switches, seat switch, clutch, PTO... Hard to say without seeing it.
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It's a manual transmission hi/low range. I'm sure the neutral switch is not associated with the linkage, since it would start with the tractor in gear. It's either associated with the clutch or the reverse/forward lever on the steering column. I have the manuals and they only show a neutral switch no location. There are no other safeties in the circuit.

It has however been starting every since I a duct tapped a light switch to the dash and ran a wire from the battery through the switch to the solenoid. LOL
 

From the drawing I found in the parts book I would lean towards the forward/reverse lever. Does the operator's manual say forward/reverse has to be in neutral to start?
 
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From the drawing I found in the parts book I would lean towards the forward/reverse lever. Does the operator's manual say forward/reverse has to be in neutral to start?
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my buddy borrowed my kubota one time and the next day it wouldn't start, no cranking either. I went over and after looking and pondering I found the pto lever was engaged which needs to be off to start. he was relieved!
 
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The neutral lever does have to be in neutral to start. I took the dash apart and saw no switch above the floorboards. If the neutral switch is associated with this linkage or the clutch, it appears to be inside the transmission casing.
 

The neutral lever does have to be in neutral to start. I took the dash apart and saw no switch above the floorboards. If the neutral switch is associated with this linkage or the clutch, it appears to be inside the transmission casing.[/quote]

Could be, but in the parts book, I didn't see any in the transmission. What manuals do you have? Are they MF manuals or different publisher? Have you asked your MF dealer about it?
 
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Thanks for your help. I did get the Massey Ferguson manuals and they were no help since they only had a wiring diagram. There was a neutral switch in the diagram but no location.
 

Seems like the service manual would describe adjusting or mounting it, but apparently not. I just looked again and still don't see anything. Here are pictures from the parts book of the switch I thought it might be, and its location shown in the parts book. This would be behind the panel the gauge panel mounts to, dash panel was probably the wrong term for the one I meant. If it is inside the transmission you should be able to find wires going into the transmission case.

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One more point of interest, you said it would start in any gear and the HI/Low didn't matter. You maybe right but, true to form in older Massey gear transmissions with the HI/LOW, it needs to be in the center between HI and LOW to start.
 
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