johndeere4960
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I have a 24t baler and am currently running 9000 foot twine and it misses a lot of bales. I have been wondering about using plastic twine or 7200ft sisal. If anyone has recommendations please let me know.
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DavidP,South Wales
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Hi, our NH 274 always preferred sisal. For the small number that we
made cost was not an issue. Can you tell us exactly what is
happening when you miss a bale? Perhaps to make it easier the cord
which is held in the knotter and runs along the top of the bale is the
number 1 cord. The number two cord is brought up into the knotter
by the needle before the knot is formed and then cut and ejected.
DavidP, South Wales
made cost was not an issue. Can you tell us exactly what is
happening when you miss a bale? Perhaps to make it easier the cord
which is held in the knotter and runs along the top of the bale is the
number 1 cord. The number two cord is brought up into the knotter
by the needle before the knot is formed and then cut and ejected.
DavidP, South Wales
Briar Hill Brittanys
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- Near Jasper, MO
I use 9000 sisal with my 24T, works fine. As mentioned, check the tucker fingers. I'd also check the timing. If you don't already have one, a manual would provide valuable information. HTH.
One side or both? You should pull the
hay out and roll the baler through a tie
cycle by hand and verify the needles are
in the right place when at the top of the
cycle. Check the fish scale plates in the
bale chamber and replace if worn. These
reduce spring back of the hay in the
chamber. I think they can be doubled up
too.
If you want to switch to plastic twine
you should install the billhooks that are
made for plastic. It's a pretty easy
swap.
hay out and roll the baler through a tie
cycle by hand and verify the needles are
in the right place when at the top of the
cycle. Check the fish scale plates in the
bale chamber and replace if worn. These
reduce spring back of the hay in the
chamber. I think they can be doubled up
too.
If you want to switch to plastic twine
you should install the billhooks that are
made for plastic. It's a pretty easy
swap.
What happens when it misses? Doesn’t tie, knot hangs on bill
hook, knot pulls apart etc. For starters check wiper arm , twine
knife and tucker fingers for proper adjustment and operation .
If you don’t have a manual get one, there is a lot of good
troubleshooting information in there. I owned a 24t years back
and currently run a JD 336. I switched to plastic twine a few
years ago and didn’t have to do anything but adjust the twine
tension. I was having trouble with poor quality sisal twine, and
the price of sisal twine was getting out of hand compared to
the plastic.
hook, knot pulls apart etc. For starters check wiper arm , twine
knife and tucker fingers for proper adjustment and operation .
If you don’t have a manual get one, there is a lot of good
troubleshooting information in there. I owned a 24t years back
and currently run a JD 336. I switched to plastic twine a few
years ago and didn’t have to do anything but adjust the twine
tension. I was having trouble with poor quality sisal twine, and
the price of sisal twine was getting out of hand compared to
the plastic.
RogerinIowa
Member
You need to use the operators manual and
diagnose the problem using the twines and
missed knots!!!!!! We are only guessing
at the problem.
diagnose the problem using the twines and
missed knots!!!!!! We are only guessing
at the problem.
tomstractorsandtoys
Well-known Member
John Deere made two different bill hooks. One for sisal and the other was called all twine which could use plastic. On my 24t we switched to 7200 many years ago and it only misses when changing balls of twine. Check the hay dogs and springs to make sure they are good and the tucker finger adjustments like mentioned below. Finger Lakes Equipment in New York makes a tucker finger update kit that uses ball joints on the linkage and if you bale a good bit of hay it might be worth checking into. Make sure the twine knife is sharp and the wiper arm is set to wipe nice and tight. On the newer wiper arms that is adjustable but on the older parts you need to bend the arm. Deere had a tool to help with that. Check bill hook for wear and grooves. You might have one big problem or several small adjustments. The 24t manual gives very detailed directions on knotter adjustment. I also added plunger extensions to my 24t. Deere recommended them for straw and loose springy crops. They just push the slice of hay a little further into the baler so when it ties there is less spring back pressure on the knot. Tom
DeltaSteve
Member
Changeing twine wont solve your problem. Your baler has other issues. Buy a book. Adjust everything by the book,in the order of the book and unless something is broken or badly worn it will tie
like a new one.You would be surprised just how many tieing issues are fixed by a simple adjustment. However adjusting without a book is like peeing into the wind.About 35 bucks.
like a new one.You would be surprised just how many tieing issues are fixed by a simple adjustment. However adjusting without a book is like peeing into the wind.About 35 bucks.
DeltaSteve
Member
Ditto!
Ray(MO)
Member
- Location
- Hale, Missouri
Could be bad twine.
Ted in NE-OH
Well-known Member
Bill hook too sharp? Is the twine cutter knife sharp?
Buy the book!!
Over the years, I worked for Ford/NH, Deere and A/C.
I got a book or two from each dealer. Saved a lot of pain and agony!!
And a Deere book will help sove NH problemws, and vise-versa.
The parts may have different names and the adjustments may be a bit different,
but at least you'll get a clue to what's wrong.
Often you can cure the problem by looking at the knot (or lack of)
and comparing it to the pictures, which will tell you what
the problem is.
I speak from experience.
Over the years, I worked for Ford/NH, Deere and A/C.
I got a book or two from each dealer. Saved a lot of pain and agony!!
And a Deere book will help sove NH problemws, and vise-versa.
The parts may have different names and the adjustments may be a bit different,
but at least you'll get a clue to what's wrong.
Often you can cure the problem by looking at the knot (or lack of)
and comparing it to the pictures, which will tell you what
the problem is.
I speak from experience.
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