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Hoofer B

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a brand new Case 1030, a JD 4020, an IH 1066, an Allis 220, a Massey 1130 if these companies made them today? From Bruces post below about sensors shutting his new tractors down. I run semis and have nothing but problems with sensors and pollution devices. I would buy pre emision semis all day long. Opinions? Bill
 
How about an Oliver 1850 ? Actually I would want a 1655 or 1755. I have a friend who used to say he would buy a brand new Oliver Super 88 or 88 if they built one.
 
I'd choose a brand new JD 4230, 4240 or better yet a 4055 with 15 speed Powershift trans, cab with AC over a JD 4020.

This post was edited by Tx Jim on 06/21/2022 at 05:45 am.
 
Yes , if I could get a modern,quiet comfortable cab with good AC, I would be ready to buy a new Case 30 or 70 series tractor or any of the 66 or 86 series IH tractors. I have no experience with JD, but I think the 4430 4440 tractors would be great too. If I could just get a modern style cab fitted to my Case 1030 , Id be set !
 
Jim, your age is showing......grin......but I can understand that since I'm 80 and creature comforts are surely to my liking.
 
I dont know quite where you are going with that answer, but if you sunk $75000 in a 4020, you would have a brand new tractor. If you were to choose a tractor that wasnt created by divine intervention , that price could include a modern cab grafted onto it. Of course, to maximize your investment you would have to do the job yourself, lest you pay $100+/hr shop rate.
 
The company I work for went in the back door and did just want you taking about a few years ago.

They took old trucks that were due to be sold off and took the driveline out of them and had the motor rebuilt. They then bought new glider trucks and installed these older drivelines. We have hundreds of them. Only drawback is we cant take them into California.

The government caught on and put a stop to it.
 
Oliver 1365 4WD,Oliver 1550 diesel.David Brown 990.And would love to have a new Long/Landini R9500,mine has been well used but is still a great tractor.Allis Chalmers 185
 
JD 2520 row crop diesel. JD 4020 diesel. JD 4450 w/cab and MFWD. IH 66 & 86 series tractors. White 2-85 w/ MFWD. Ford 5000 or 5600. Unfortunately, the world at large is heading in the other direction. And while we are at it an upgraded IH 1440 combine and JD 6620 combine.
 
Friend of mine has a bunch of trucks on the road. Has one triaxle that sits in the yard because it needs a computer. Has searched the whole country for one. Not available. In searching he found other people have the same problem and are going to the back lots, getting old trucks out, refurbishing them and putting them back in service.
I don't know if it's true but read we import urea from certain countries we are not real friendly with right now and if they stop. No more DEF for all those diesels.
 
NO--I rolled almost of my Sons' soybeans with the 8130-I never ran it much but on the grain cart--It would be very hard to go back to a 4020! That power shift transmission is great and you can't beat the new cabs.---Tee
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While some urea is imported, lots is made in North America. I just read in Truck News this morning that the Association of Truck Stops stated that there is not a shortage of DEF and that none is anticipated.
 
I would not buy them as they were produced in the 1960's/1970's.

First off they all had their fair share of problems. What's going on now is nothing new.
Second off there are no creature comforts whatsoever. They're noisy, hot, and uncomfortable, with the controls in odd inconvenient locations.
Third off there isn't enough hydraulic capacity or remotes for modern implements.
Fourth off there is precious little in the way of safety features.
 
The only thing any of those tractors would be if any use on my farm is running grain vacs and augers. We do have three 2013 model semis that we deleted and they took care of the emissions problems.
 
++++1. I spend way too much time on tractors to be out
in the dirt and sun. Stationary work is all they could do
for me.
 
I would take the 1030 or the 4020 but I would much rather move up to a 90 series Case. Still run a 2590 and prefer it over the Magnum. Tony
 
I'm just curious, how old were those old trucks, fifty - sixty year old 1960's era trucks or ten to twenty year old 2000's era trucks?
 
Where would you find the extra labor to run 4 or 5 1960's tractors instead of just one operator on one modern tractor? Fuel economy would be worse than today's tractors too.

The $7,000 to buy a new 4020 back in 1967 would be the equivalent of $61,000 today. Deere was rolling out around 2000 4020's a week back then, so they had a large economy of scale to pay for the cost of their tooling, fixtures, machining transfer lines,assembly lines, inspection and test equipment, etc. Today I doubt there would be enough sales volume to pay for the cost of the new tooling, so the cost to manufacture a new 1960's tractor today would be much much higher than the $61,000 1967 price in today's dollars.
 
If I had to go back to older tractors like mentioned I could move up about 10-20 years with the models you guys are listing. I'm still using 06,56,66 series IH's. If I had to move up to a newer tractor and still be mechanical engine stuff, I would look hard at the 50,55 series deere or the magnum CaseIh's.
 

Those are all good tractors but I'd rather step up a few years, although some brands were gone by the late 80's/early 90's I think some of the best were built during that time

4020 JD is well known but I'd take a 2955/3255 over a 4020 any day
I grew up on a small farm using a Ford 850 but I wouldn't want to farm with it today, and although I use 4000/5000 Fords today I think the 10 series were some of the best Ford tractors made along with the TW 5 series such as the TW15 model
I do have a 6610 series II model and 7710 series II is my all time favorite
 
(quoted from post at 10:12:57 06/23/22) I do have a 6610 series II model and 7710 series II is my all time favorite
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You can still buy a form of the 7710 in the New Holland TS6 series.

IMHO it's the closest thing you can get to a simple, old school tractor but still meet modern emissions and safety standards.
 

I would certainly buy one of them or even, say, a 620 JD. I have used a big IH with cab and a/c, and I felt isolated from the work and from the field.

I don't farm, now, but, if I did, I'd prefer simple and open and straight-forward. I don't need the comfort features, and I don't want the "safety" features.
 
Not really fair to put a 4020 in the same class as a 1066 but I think I get your point. Definitely the 1066, could keep a whole fleet of those going for the price of one new tractor its size.
 
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