Oliver 1650

So I am not proud of this, this past June I bought my first Oliver 1650. Barn find not running right. I stuck tons of time and money into it, went through the motor got it running exactly how it's supposed too. While I was busy getting it running right and do odd jobs around the farm I left the transmission for last thinking it would be too full from water or hydraulic fluid leaking down inside. Couple weeks ago I went to plow and heard the pump whine very loud. I pulled the plug and less than 3 quarts came out of the transmission. My heart sunk and I called myself every name in the book. I put a new filter on and filled her up with fresh 80w90 and she's running smooth. Part of me wants to take the top off and see just how much damage was done. Part of me doesn't want to know. There was a couple of bigger metal shavings I skimmed out with my finger but nothing crazy. I have personally never had this happen and I am here to ask all of you your opinions. Do you think the transmission will be fine? Or do you think I am screwed? Like I said she is running and shifting fine. Any knowledge or personal experience would be greatly appreciated.
 
If new rebuild parts adds up to more than a used transmission is, might as well just run out the one you got now.

Might call around. See how much a salvaged tyranny is, and how available they are. Before you go shelling yours completely out.
 
I'd keep running it. You will find out fast if any damage is serious. Bearings will be the first to go then gears. Look for a tractor with a bad engine ad swap halves.
 
Run it and keep checking the rear end oil. Plenty of guys parting out 1650s to Find a complete transmission and rear end to swap.
 
I would consider draining it an check the magnet on the drain plug. Refill and run it like the others said. Maybe get the oil tested. How many hours per year will this tractor run? 15 hours or 500?

Do you have a picture?
 
Wait, hold on. You heard the ''pump whine'' and all you found was that the rear end was low on oil? The hydraulic pump is separate. It has its own reservoir and its own oil. Low oil in the rear end wouldn't affect it at all. Or was it the transmission lube pump that whined?

Which filter did you change, the spin on transmission filter or the hydraulic filter cartridge? You said you skimmed some metal shavings. From where?

Your hydraulic pump might whine anyway when it's cold, needs a filter change, or just slightly low on oil. You might have just had a common hydraulic whine and it wasn't related to the low oil in the rear end at all.
 
Neighbor had me overhaul a 310 waukesau and put it in a 1955. Everything went well and sent it home with him, Stating to check all the fluids before using since I wasn't familiar with Olivers. So they took it home got all excited and put it on a large auger wagon to empty bins and fill trucks. I don't remember all that happened but was over there later to see the pto housing off and the rearend housing was shiney with filings all over the place. There are still using it, 20 years later. I then asked if they checked the fluids like I said, they put their heads down and said NO. It happens.
 
its as rrlund and t f said. but i am wondering where you put that 80-90 oil??? in the hydraulic's ? hydraulics are separate oil.
 
I have a cockshutt 1650 and believe they are the same. The dip stick on the left of the seat is for hydraulics and is not the transmission.
the seal between that reservoir and the rear end often leak.
So some of us run trans/hyd oil in both rear end and hydraulics.
My neighbor hooked a hose and tap to the fill level plug and drains the oil out of the trans and pours it back in the hydraulics. He changed the seal once and the shaft was a little ruff and it didn't last long and at his age he didn't want to go through taking off the cab again.
works for him. Me I made a hole in the reservoir and ran a pipe down to 4 inches off the bottom of the trans and have my hyd pump sucking from there instead of the original reservoir. As far as damage to your machine probably not much happened if it is still working.
 
Hello Motts welcome to YT! Interesting approach, get a lot of time and money in part of your tractor and then turn around and ignore another part of it that you feel has a problem. Well you admitted you made a mistake, that is IMHO ahead of some guys on here, if they drove off a cliff and lived to tell about it could not admit it was the wrong decision. The tip on obtaining an operators manual and following it is VERY GOOD advice! Like making sure using 80w90 wherever you poured it in is correct. If your tractor has a two speed Hydra-power or 3 speed Hydraul-Shift on the go shift units they have a separate reservoir from the hydraulics. You do not want to damage that unit due to neglect. I am linking the OM that YT sells for your tractor.
YT Oliver 1650 Operators Manual
 

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