Continental f227 engine problems

David Wight

New User
i just bought a hyster fork truck with continental f227 is a 1978 year. When I started the engine it ran really rough. Noticed right away that it was timed from the bell housing end of the engine, and it did run?? Did compression test all between 151 and 161 .. put on New wires ( copper core) new plugs new electronic distributor.Set the timing from the fan end of the engine (153624). The engine will run but does not fire on #1,2 or4 at all, after 3 minutes of running the exhaust manifold has not heated at all, #6is at running temp and #3 is just hot enough that you can hold your finger on it .the head has a cracked from freezing but sealed with job weld.hoping someone can help can t get at valve cover because exhaust and manifold are in way . My next step is to pull engine and go from there. Thanks
 
i have a continental engine in my welder. copper core wires and petronix electronic distributer do not play well together. fried the distributer if i
remember right. good luck.
 
why are u pulling engine with that kind of compression?, and yes electronic ignition requires carbon core wires. and also is the firing order
in the same direction as the rotor rotation? see people do it backwards.
 
It really doesnt matter which end of the engine you use. TDC is
the same spot on the flywheel for both #1 and #6.
 
(quoted from post at 10:40:33 05/22/23) i have a continental engine in my welder. copper core wires and petronix electronic distributer do not play well together. fried the distributer if i
remember right. good luck.
This is my first time on web site not sure if I am doing this properly, yes I have firing order in correct order the way rotor turns I am thinking that there is some broken valve springs just can t get at the valve cover off with engine in the forklift, still can t understand why 3 cylinders don t fire at all , they are the ones with highest compression.
 
You wouldn't have good compression with
broken valve springs. Not likely anyway.
Cracked distributor cap, incorrect spark
plug orientation in regard to firing order
and direction of distributor shaft
rotation are the two main things that come
to mind for me. Also blown intake gaskets
could cause misfires. No sense in pulling
the engine until you know the root cause
of the misfires. And pulling the engine
isn't necessarily going to make the cause
known. And once the engine is out, you
can't have it running to diagnose the
misfires. Unless you have a test stand.
 
Hello David welcome to YT! Your method of replying is
correct. First off is the intention to have this as a
working forklift or do you have some other intention for
the engine to power something else. How did it run
before you put all the new parts on it? Is the electronic
distributor the CORRECT one for a 6 cylinder engine?
Does the distributor have a new rotor in it? If so how
does it compare to the old one? Others have given you
good suggestions as far as distributor cap etc. How do
the spark plugs in the cylinders that are not firing look?
Try swapping the spark plug between 1 and 3 does it
now fire on 1 but not 3? Then you have a spark plug
problem, are they gapped correctly? The suggestion of
a problem with the intake manifold sealing is a wise
thing to check. Spray carb cleaner or starting fluid at
the mating surfaces of the intake to the head. If the
engine changes speed or picks up the misfire then the
gasket is leaking. Very likely cause of some cylinder
firing and some not on an engine with good
compression. One other thing worth mentioning, is the
coolant holding a proper level? You say the head is
cracked from freezing. It may be holding on the
outside but what about the inside?
Now as for what Tramway guy said about the timing is
correct as far as connecting a timing light or static
timing with a test light. But for almost any other
process you do for timing use number 1 cylinder. Just
best for a novice to stick with conventional processes.
Timing a distributor to an engine should be done on
TDC of the compression stroke of number 1 cylinder.
It would be nice to see the exhaust problem you have
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(quoted from post at 22:15:13 05/22/23) Hello David welcome to YT! Your method of replying is
correct. First off is the intention to have this as a
working forklift or do you have some other intention for
the engine to power something else. How did it run
before you put all the new parts on it? Is the electronic
distributor the CORRECT one for a 6 cylinder engine?
Does the distributor have a new rotor in it? If so how
does it compare to the old one? Others have given you
good suggestions as far as distributor cap etc. How do
the spark plugs in the cylinders that are no ot firing look?
Try swapping the spark plug between 1 and 3 does it
now fire on 1 but not 3? Then you have a spark plug
problem, are they gapped correctly? The suggestion of
a problem with the intake manifold sealing is a wise
thing to check. Spray carb cleaner or starting fluid at
the mating surfaces of the intake to the head. If the
engine changes speed or picks up the misfire then the
gasket is leaking. Very likely cause of some cylinder
firing and some not on an engine with good
compression. One other thing worth mentioning, is the
coolant holding a proper level? You say the head is
cracked from freezing. It may be holding on the
outside but what about the inside?
Now as for what Tramway guy said about the timing is
correct as far as connecting a timing light or static
timing with a test light. But for almost any other
process you do for timing use number 1 cylinder. Just
best for a novice to stick with conventional processes.
Timing a distributor to an engine should be done on
TDC of the compression stroke of number 1 cylinder.
It would be nice to see the exhaust problem you have
here is a run down of how to post photos.
Pictures post through the ..Browse or Choose files..
button just below where it says ..Upload
Photos/Videos.. down lower in the ..New post and reply
windows. See photo to see an example on my iPhone.
Clicking that will give you a choice to select the file or
folder the pictures are stored in on your PC or phone.
Then select the photo from the file and ..Add.. it. They
cannot be pasted into the text area as a file. I would
suggest only adding 1 or 2 per reply to see if your
photos are below the file size limit.
<img src=https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto155143.jpg>
Hello fellows pulled the head off this morning and then pulled of intake and exhaust manifolds then valve cover there were 6 broken valve springs ina row and a seventh on #5 cylinder . The strange thing is that the three cylinders with broken intake and exhaust springs all had the best compression. Looking for a head and valve springs if any one out there has parts.
 

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