diesel additive

Friend is having to rebuild pump on a big 200hp Massey tractor. He just bought it, so probably from the fuel the last owner used. What are most of you using for an additive? Will ATF be OK, and if so, how much? Like a quart to 300 gal tank? I know, the new fuel is SUPPOSED to have enough lub. but once of this is enough. Just to be safe.

A friend of mine was an Allis Chalmers dealer for forty years, he says ATF works good, removes moisture and lubes the pump. In the winter time I put a quart of oil in 10 gallons of fuel and dump it in the tractors, lots of lube on cold mornings, also add some de icer.

Biodiesel would be the best but Howes is the best additive I have seen, lubricity,cleaning,anti gelling. It does it all.

ATF is used by a lot of truck shops for removing any built up deposits in the pump and injectors, but does nothing for water dispersant or jelling fuel. Use the Howes additive. That will provide a better all around protection for the entire system

Yep,

Don't know what it is about that Dextron. It just flat cleans up injectors and it does it in one heck of a hurry.

I mix it a quart to 40 gallon.

Allan

All this is great.
I add KILLEM to keep the algae at bay. There are other products that do the same thing it is just the one I use. If you buy in bulk as I do algae will be major cause of plugged injectors and filters.
Also I have found Biodiesel solves the lubricity issue and doesn't cost more.

Thanks goys..its the lubrication I am after. Supply doesn't last long enough to get bugs, and Colorado doesn't suffer from water.

Two-stroke engine-oil is the most cost-effective additive. Added lube protection is measure in micron-improvement over ultra low sulfur diesel.

Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle oil from Walmart added with a 200 to 1 ratio scores very high in wear-tests in fuel injection pumps with a 162 micron improvement.

Used motor-oil, e.g. Shell Rotella 15W-40 only tested with a 2 micron improvement.

ATF at 200 to 1 showed just about no measurable gain in lube.

Here's a chart of test results. Disregard any prices shown since they change so much.

In Order Of Performance with controlled tests:

1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2)Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment
Gas and Diesel
cetane improver, emulsifier
HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.60/tank

4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend
Multi-purpose
demulsifier
HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement
3000:1 ratio
1.11 oz/tank
$0.68/tank

5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend
Muti-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver
HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement
512:1 ratio
6.5 oz/tank
$3.65/tank

6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.87/tank

7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
$1.09/tank

8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula
Lubricity Only
demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.00/tank

9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate
Multi-purpose
demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.16/tank

10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement
400:1 ratio
8.32 oz/tank
$1.58/tank

11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner
Multi-purpose
Alcohol free
HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.36/tank

12)Stanadyne Performance Formula
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement
480:1 ratio
6.9 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used.
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
price: market value

14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
Gas or diesel
HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
427:1 ratio
7.8 oz/tank
$2.65/tank

15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.67/tank

16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.12/tank

17)Marvel Mystery Oil
Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer
systems)
HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
320:1 ratio
10.4 oz/tank
$3.22/tank

18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.38/tank

19)Primrose Power Blend 2003
Multi-purpose
Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier
HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline
1066:1 ratio
3.12 oz/tank
$1.39/tank

Yeah,

But, will it make 'em have that "ringy-dingy-dingy" sound? :>)

Allan

Thanks for taking the time to compile that list. Looks like the ticket is to add about a half gallon of biodiesel per tankfull routinely, then use ATF or one of the additives once in awhile to clean things up. Of course, no gelling problem here in the balmy Pacific Northwest (where high temp will AGAIN be in the 50's today, with scattered showers, and I can't get my corn to sprout).

It's possible the injection pump failure was due to time, hours, dirt and water. And not related to the fuel in any way shape or form.

I personally do not know any thing about the subject but, my new John Deere manual says: using deisel with more than 5% Biodeisel will void the warranty. It also says do not add any type of oil including 2cycle engine oil to the fuel.

I planted some of my sweet corn twice this year - in cental New York. We don't seem to get spring anymore - just late winter - to mid-summer with little in between.

I did my first planting early to mid May. We had a few warm days - and it then got dark, dismal, and cold. To make things worse. I planted a bunch of non-treated, non-hyrid corn this year so we can get seeds to save and reuse. I was still heating the house with a smoldering wood-fire, so I guess that can indicate poor corn weather.

We didn't get any real "corn sprouting" weather until a week or two ago. Seems I lost 2/3 of what I replanted, and I had to replant.

Yesterday - it was 100 degrees F here - which just about never happens - not even mid-August. But, at least the soil is 60 degrees plus now.

I planted peas in early March, then got a run of cold, rainy weather- had just about given up on them, when most came up a month after I planted. I don't think corn is as tolerant- seems like if you don't get it up in a couple of weeks, it ain't gonna happen. I'm about there with mine, now.

ATF fluid has friction modifers not much lube there ,go to
www.schaefferoil.com
they have some of the best additives .

if you use biodiesel you wont need anything to clean it up bio will do that better than anything else. thats why people complain of filter plugging issues when they start using it. ps it will peel paint.