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After 9 months of this its getting real old.

This is the remains of the muffler off my C. Im trying to get a new one on there before i bolt the manifold up to my B. The old muffler would'nt come out, so i sawed it off about an inch above the top of the manifold. I figured on hitting it with a hammer to pop it loose. I hit it one time too many and it went into the manifold and now i cant get it out. I'd leave it in there but its sure going to rattle around.

I tried a chisal, but i still cant get the thing out. Any ideas??
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Can you get a REAL big punch down in beside of it and distort it more? Then get ahold of it with a pair of Channel Locks and start wiggling.
 
OK, think about this logically. That thing fell in there with a little hammering so it will come out one way or another.

Do you know someone that works at a muffler shop? They do that sort of thing all the time. The extraction would be a piece of cake with an acetylene cutting torch so long as you know how to direct the flame at the thinner steel and hit the oxygen trigger before the cast iron got too hot.

Can you compress that steel so it fits back through the hole that it went in? Try a pair of big screwdrivers, a small pry bar, or whatever you have.

Can you grab that with vice grip type pliers? If so, do that, tighten them up really tight and then pry on the pliers.

Lanse, this is one of those experiences that we all have. That "I was going to, but" is what makes you a lot more careful the second time you have to cut a muffler off an exhaust manifold.
 
lanse, isnt working on stuff fun? grab hold of it with a pair of vice grips, then use a hack saw blade, wrap some tape around it to make a handle (ya dont need stitches) and you can try to saw some chunks out of it to get it to come out. other option, if you have an electric drill, get some grinding tips to fit in the drill and grind it down enough to get it out. a high speed die grinder with a rotary burr would be nice, but prolly not in your budget. it will take some time, but it will come out. dont rush it!!!!!!dont force it!!! dont break the manifold!!!
 
Welcome back! Hadn't heard anything from you in a while and was wonderin' how you were makin' out.

Not insurmountable, though I AM wondering what you used to ball that up like that down in there so far????

It looks in your picture like the gobbed up pipe off center, as if it was starting to move sideways and around the elbow at the bottom.

You'll need to go easy so as not to break the manifold casting, but you might try using a narrow cold chisel to drive down on it and beat/shape it into a smaller gob that you can get back up through. With a good shrap chisel, you could even cut small pieces off of it that would make it easier to gst it into a smaller gob. The KEY is that little taps aren't goin' to get you much, you're going to have to whom onto it some to cut any away or reshape it, but taking care not to drive the chisel into the metal of the manifold. You want to be mostly using the wedge of the chisel, using the side of the manifold as leverage, to reshape the gob. Don't use the cutting oedge of the chisel for anything except to try to cut off a piece of the gob. Might take a lot of fiddlin' but with patience it'd be worth a try.
 
I would try to get some needle nose visegrips in there and try to roll it into a smaller ball that can be removed. Or to tear off one peice at a time until it is small enough to remove. As far as the chisle method goes, well no offense but you have bad luck with breaking things and this sounds like another oppertunity for that to happen to you. You could try cutting a quarter inch slot in a piece of bar stock or pipe that will fit in the hole. Then slip it over the stuck metal and try turning it to twist that piece into something small enough to get out. Similar to the old twist off strips and keys on canned fish tins.
 
Glennster has the right idea. Take your time. A pair of vice grips and some kind of prying tool, but don't break the manifold. That chunk WILL come out of there.
 
OK-you guys got me to thinking. I called the local garage and they said they had a torch and would be willing to try. Im off now, 4 miles to town and 4 back. Gonna be fun :-(
 
go to the hardware store and buy a little mapp gas torch heat it red then with a long pair of needle nose pliers start rolling it around and around it will fall out if you twist it enough
 
Lanse, get the guy at the garage to blow it to smithereens with a torch and then just shake the peices out.

just a note, though- almost all of your problems seem to come from that hammer. You need to think before you swing, Thor!
 
OK, 8 miles and a minor road-rage confrantation later-its finally fixed. Took an hour and cost $5. I took it to the local garage and the guy torched it in half and it just fell out. Sat around and talked for a while then headed home.

$5. One hour. I dont think this has ever happened on that tractor, and it sure feels good :)

It was tempting to lay into it with a chisel and then weld the manifold back together, but that wouldnt've looked too good. Thanks everyone
 
That's what I always ask my redneck buddies when they're working on stuff "You need a bigger hammer?"
 
torched it out.

I've been around, just not feeling chatty, thanks.

Its globbed up because its been a LONG day.
 
Im starting to see that the hammer seems to be causing lots of problems for you.The next time you think of using a hammer,try using something else like a torch,(I have even got stuff broke loose by heating it with a propane torch before)penetrating oil,big pipe wrench,big channel locks,vice grips,and keep at it without beating on it.Beating on stuff is the last resort,just dont get to beating on it before you try real hard other ways.However you could have got that piece out by beating on it more,with a big punch or chisel,I think.
 
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