OT - Getting rid of stumps?

relaurain

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Cleared 40 acres of planted pine and now I have all those stumps still in the ground. Would like to get rid of them the cheapest way. Any ideas?
 
Probably the cheapest way is to let them rot... also the slowest! I would say hire someone with a root rake on a dozer or excavator. Gonna cost about $120/hour though.
 
Not knowing how big the stumps are. I will say this fall I helped a neighbor out on the problem. He took his tractor and plow and plowed the ground deep. Then cross plowed and cross plowed again. This seem to pull a lot of it out of the ground are at least loose some. Then he had this pull behind rake like. It had flat bars on it that were C-shaped. .. He lowed it and did the same on plowing the ground. .. I stood at one end and as he came to an end of row. I would remover all the built up brush and roots from equpitment. The ground looks great now and ready for spring work of planting he has plans.
 
Sticking up a foot is to short for a dozier to work well and to tall for a lot of other things. Best thing to do is cut them off again as low as you can then forget about them. Of course you will not be able to plow the ground for about 10 years. Burning that many would cost you a mint so about the only way is cut them short and let them rot, keep them brush hogged so they will not grow
Hobby farm
 
We cleared a timber lot 45 years ago. Had a Cat come in and doze the stumps. Pushed them along a ravine bank. After about 40 years they were all rotted away. Patience my boy patience.
 
I have no idea of how bad those stumps are, but a good rule of thumb is the bigger the track hoe the cheaper the job is done. Having a small machine peck away compared to a large hoe making like a cow switching her tail.

Just a thought that may serve you is to have them tug them up, and then your loader hauls them off or a smaller dozer does the clean up. A large track hoe can dig one heck of a hole--or holes spaced around the field in a real big hurry as well.
 
This is not the answer to your question cause it is no longer possible, but back in the good ole days I saw my dad and neighbor blow them out with dynamite. Sure was interesting to a 10 year old. One time there was one too big for the neighbors old D-6. They drilled several 1 1/2 inch holes at an angle under the stump. ( I still have the old home made hand drill that is about 6' long). They filled the holes with dynamite, lit the fuse and we went about 300 yds away to watch the fun. Hiding behind the CAT. That stump must have went 40 foot in the air!! They both agreed they probably over charged the holes!!

Sure was fun.


Gene
 
planted pine don't get very big on the stump and do not root very deep we use a case 590 backhoe with a frost hook and do three rows at a time. around me it's all sand and they come right out with one hook done some 20 acres stands and they clean up well after the stumps are out takes more to clean up then pulling them. the big tree farms have a BIG rototiller and grind them up one was just here from Minn.took two rows at a time
 
40 acres? That's a LOT of stumps. How big are they? What's the intended purpose of the cleared land? Feilds? I read that they're about 1' off the ground. That's not much length to do much with them.

That said, how big around are they? (diameter) if they're not too big, you should be able to pull them out with a tractor and a good logging chain hooked to the drawbar. I helped my brother remove some 6-8" pine stumps with our MF 165. Pulled them out much easier than we thought it would, but those trees were pretty small and the roots weren't deep at all.

I personally wouldn't want to pull out 40 acres worth with a tractor though. If you hire it out, that's a lot of money spent on stump removal. Might still be the best way to go. With that much to clear, you should be able to experiment quite a bit and find something that works good.
Cheapest would be to let them rot over 5-10 years.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
If you burn them the chared remains will never rot. In the good ole days they use to char the bottom of fence posts to keep them from rotting.
I've seen chared remains last 15 years, then I cut them off and the stump was gone in a year.
 
Cheapest and best way and least labor intensive is a good sized track hoe. probably could do an acre or more a day. Rental by the month is a lot less daily expense than shorter periods of time. After they are up can be pushed by a loader to a burn pile started with (hold your breath) a few gallons of diesel fuel. Henry
 
No snake bite kit will rid 40 acres of stumps. You did not specify what your intentions are once cleared off. Your future intentions affect how to take care of the stumps.

These are North Louisiana figures so adjust accordingly. If you want quick and easy, have them sheared and pile (big dozer and V blade followed by a root rake to windrow). If you intend to make pasture you will be filling in stump holes for the next 10 + years. The last 8 acres my grandfather cleared was done this way. Fill in holes as they appear and disk it up every 3-4 years, one day it will be done. If you plan to re-plant in pines this is ok and cost effective. In my area this is about $360/acre.

The ideal way is to have a trackhoe DIG them out then have dozer pile the stumps, tops, and limbs. Once burned it may require a smaller dozer to re-pile and burn again, then a smaller dozer to scatter and or bury the remains.

I took the trackhoe route. It cost me $80/hr each for 2 Case 750's and $80/hr for a JD 120 trackhoe. They cleared about 40 of my 50 acres for about $21,000. Now I have to burn the piles.

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I built this to drag up the large trash and roots. I will follow up with JD offset disk to chop up the smaller trash and roots and level out the land as well as fill in low spots. Overall, it is going well.

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I will post up dates as the weather allow me to continue.

Good luck,

Charles
 
I have trackhoes and bulldoziers dug up lots of stumps. If you need them out, hire as big a trackhoe with a thumb as you can find they should be able to pluck them out shake the dirt off and pile them.If you can find someone reputable get them to do it by the hour. I always offer that to people but rarely do they accept, everyone wants a firm price. I understand that nobody wants an open ended contract. I always figure what time I think it is going to take then add to that to cover myself. Still that hinges on honest people. Next thing to consider is buying a good used trackhoe do your work at your leisure then sell the machine for what you paid for it or maybe even make some money on it. The economy what it is machines are cheaper than you think and look for a bigger machine you would be surprised that smaller machines tend to bring more. Don't be intimidated that you don't know how to run it every operator had to start somewhere. make sure you are by yourself so you can consentrate on what your doing not people watching. Give just a little throttle and start it just takes time and repetition. Or hire an operator temporarily or get an operator that has a job an hire him to do it on weekends.
I know thats a lot to think about but 40 acres is going to cost a good bit. Thats my .02.
Ron
 
How big are the stumps.
I have paid for stump removal when I built my home. I paid a guy $1000 to clear a home site with a mid size excavator. (it took several hours) He dug the stumps out and buried them. Biggest one was about 8" in diameter. mostly small stuff. This cleared site was about 4000 sq. feet.

It would cost a lot of money to do what you need. I would recommend calling a guy with a large Cat dozer to bust them loose and push them to the side of the field. It may take a 2 weeks to do this at $60/hour.
 
Don't mean to be a smart aleck But Would you post pictures of your root rake after you find a stump they missed. Thats why store bought ones have springy teeth.
 
Charles- neat rig! That thing would be perfect for grooming my chipped rubber riding arena.
Nice fab job!
 
i keep cutting back the brush on my place a little each year. i cut the stumps off below brushhog level so it goes over top of them then after a couple years or so i can shove them out with my back blade on my tractor.but im in no hurry either. RICK
 

This what happens when an unmovable object is snagged. The framework is Sch. 80 2" pipe (.218" wall). The teeth are 1" x 3" welded with 7018 all the way.

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Charles
 
I didn't mean to make light of your creation it really looks like it does a great job. I just know what a solid stump can do. I also recognize good welding and appreciate how much time it took. Good Job.
Ron
 
First off I really like your root rake. When I was young dad had about twenty acres cleared with dozers. I spent most of one month picking up roots and cutting others off with an axe. My vote goes to trackhoe. Bernie Steffen
 
If you used a pin with support on both sides, like on a box scraper, you would have a stronger mount than the bolt on lower link mount. Your root drag is pretty heavy duty and since most 3 pts. don't have down pressure, I would think it would float over most stumps if the stumps are too low to see. It must have took a little while to fabricate it. Dave
 
Well if the housing market wasn"t so soft I"d sell off about five acres then take the money and have it proffessionally cleared plus you might get them to cut some wterways while they're at it. I know pine tree roots aren"t normally all that tough but you will be dealing with roots for years.IMHO
 
RBnSC and 135 Fan,

I have to disagree with you on this one. Leaving the pin mounted on one side hopefully keeps it as the weak link. If you capture the pin on both sides and hook a stump or a big rock just right, you may break or bend something way more expense than a cat 1 pin.

I speak from experience, I hooked a big rock, that I never knew was there just about 2" under the surface, I ripped the lower hitch right off my box blade. It was hanging on by the top link.
3 hours of welding later I was back at it.

I'd rather change a $5 pin.

Rick
 
I thank you for the comments guys. I was not trying to change the topic of the post but I am going through the same things as the original poster.

I spend about a week start to finish building the rake. I copied this and improved upon my grandfathers rake he built about 40 years ago. I'll post pic of them both for compairson later.

It is region specific. We do not have rock in Louisianan and East Texas. I thought about building a clevis mount to attach the lower links. But I think the CAT 1 pins are like a "shear pin". They cost about $1.20.

If anyone wants to try and build something like this I can provide some more info.

It is a 1962 Farmall 504, 50 HP. Pulls it 6-9" deep, 51 teeth well. A stump stops it in its tracks. I run 1st and 2nd gears only in unknown ground.

Charles
 

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